(Before continuing, I want to warn the reader; some of the details of Attis’ myth are sexually graphic in nature. Its like something that both Salvador Dali, the surrealist artist, and Jerry Springer might come up with if they lived at the same time and worked
1. Born on December 25th?
Nope. No mainstream (i.e. non-Jesus Mythicist) book or ancient text makes such a claim.
2. Born of a virgin?
Because, you see…Cybele was known to have had SEX!
King Midas, the mythical king who could turn anything he touched into gold, was said to be the son of King Gordius and Cybele (never described as being the product of sexless or virgin conception. To be fair, in another version of the myth, Midas was
Now there is one myth were Cybele is mistaken for a virgin. In this tale, she is the mortal daughter of King Meion and Queen Dindyme. She was left to die in the wilderness after she was
Not much of a virgin, eh?
Thus, Jesus Mythicists have no case here.
So…what do we know about the birth of Attis?
Nana is never called a virgin.
Now there is a version of the myth where Nana is the mortal daughter of a king, who flees after her father intends to kill her for what he perceives to be evidence of fornication (i.e. her pregnancy).
Thus, we can’t say that Nana was a virgin.
Jesus Mythicists may protest, saying that an ancient inscription from Pereus mentions a goddess named “Atremis-Nana”, thus proving that Nana was a virgin. After all, why would she be identified with
Well, that depends on which “Nana” is being identified with Artemis.
You see, there were several goddesses named Nana.
However, remember the problem of identification; the gods might be identified, but their myths will be different. Artemis is one of the 12 major Olympian deities, while the Phrygian Nana is a nymph, a lesser divinity. Artemis is a twin (her bother is
We have no evidence that Nana was a virgin. There is no primary source that states that Nana was a virgin. Attis had a sexless conception to be sure (though the fact that Nana, in one of the versions of the myth, shoves a pomegranate into her womb, shows some odd
So much for a virgin birth.
3. Savior slain for mankind?
4. Body represented by bread and wine in a Eucharist/Lord’s Supper?
Um, someone should have told them that bread and wine were forbidden at Attis festivals.
5. A shepherd?
Yes, Attis was a literal shepherd.
Jesus was called “The Good Shepherd” metaphorically. He was a literal carpenter and Rabbi (Mark 6:3, John 3:1-3).
6. Called “Divine Son” and “Father”?
And as for “father”; He was indeed called “Papas” or Father.
Jesus, i.e. God the Son, was not.
In one version of the myth, Attis has sex with Cybele and they have a child. In this version, Cybele is a mortal (The daughter of King Meion of Phrygia),
So, given that Jesus was not called “Father”, and thus no connection with Attis here, why do Jesus Mythicists continue to bring this idea up?
Because Jesus said in John 10:30 “I and the
I’ll give you a moment to recover from the intellectual equivalent of fart.
Since Jesus was the Son of God, this makes him out to be both a “Divine Son” and “Father”, in the Jesus Mythicist view.
Attis is not part of a trinity. He is a single god, a single person, who just happens to be called “Papas”, and who happens to be a son of a goddess in some versions of his myth.
Thus, no connection between Jesus and Attis.
There was a Taurobolium, and it did involve a bull sacrifice (sheep were a less expensive alternative). The
No. In Herodotus’ version, he dies on a boar hunt, courtesy of friendly fire. In the
Poor, poor Attis.
What about the Attis holiday held on March 22nd, where a pine tree was cut down, an effigy of Attis was tied to it? Well, this didn’t represent a crucifixion; it represent Attis death under a tree. The
So, given the facts of the case…why do Jesus Mythicists continue bring Attis and crucifixion up?
Because Jesus cross was metaphorically
Attis was said to have turned into a tree or died under one, Jesus’ cross was metaphorical likened to a tree, so there MUST be some kind of connection!
Excuse me while I ram my head into a wall.
Nope. He was reborn (in some sources, he was reborn as a tree. In all sources (including the tree rebirth one), he became a god (seemingly reborn as a god). Reincarnation and apotheosis (becoming a god) are NOT the same things as a resurrection! Some modern
In other words, Zeus did a half-butt job.
Oh and by the way; the oldest texts that speak of Attis having any
Nope. There is no Black Friday mentioned in his mythos.
10. Killed on March 25th?
11. His priests were made eunuchs for the
No, they were castrated in homage to the castration of Attis. In early Christianity, all Christians were a royal priesthood (1 Peter 2:5,9). Early Christians were not Eunuchs. Jesus mentioned that there were men who lived like eunuchs for the sake of the
Wow…see what happens when you dig into the Hebrew culture which Christianity derived from, instead of trying your best to find a pagan parallel?
The Attis Myth has many different versions, and Jesus mythicists will try to take elements out of several of them and combine
Ovid “Metamorphoses”, 10.103
Ovid “Fasti” 4.179-246
Pausanias "Description of Greece", 7.17.9-13
Diodorus Siculus “Library of History”, 3.58-59, 5.49
“The Age of Fable” by Thomas Bulfinch, 117
“The Legend of Attis in Greek and Roman Art” by M.J. Vermaseren, 1-6
“Cybele and Attis: The Myth and
“Cassell Dictionary of Classical Mythology” by Jenny March, 119, see also 32, 81
“The Mythology Book: Big Ideas Simply Explained” by Philip Wilkinson (Consultant), 116-17
“The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology” by Arthur Cotterell and Rachel
“The Penguin Dictionary of Classical Mythology” by Pierre Grimal, 27-28, 69, 112, 393, see also 82-83, 297-98
“Encyclopedia of Gods” by Michael Jordan, 141, 176-77
“A Study of Women in Attic Inscriptions” by Helen McClees, PhD, 25
“Nymphomania: A History” By Carol Groneman, 185