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Hill’s distress at the GOP questioners’ seeming indulgence of conspiracy theories on 2016 elections and fodder that gives Russia for 2020
Hill: The Russians thrive on misinformation and disinformation ... the Russians were who attacked us in 2016. and they’re writing the script for others to do the same. & if we don’t get out act together, they will continue to make fools of us internationally.
Hill recommends her book on Putin to the congressmen to educate themselves on how Putin thinks about disinformation techniques and as a sleep aid
Hill reminds GOP questionners eager to talk about the Steele dossier that the Russians attacked our democracy, and says in doing it, they attacked and undermined Trump’s legitimacy as well
didn’t see Harvey introduced as one of the staff and members present at beginning of Hill deposition, wondered if he was one of those redacted, but Hill asks him a question and he gets “introduced” to be recorded in deposition here
Hill: I was concerned...that this could basically spin out and put..the United States in a very bad position because I did not know exactly what Mr. Giuliani was doing. So we are now living my worst nightmare.
Hill says, again, that Sondland told her that Trump told him he was in charge of Ukraine, and he was Trump’s point man on Europe
Hill: Sondland “was a shocking number of times in Washington.” She’d see him coming out of the West Wing, he’d say he’d been to see the president. But it often turned out he’d seen Mulvaney
Hill: “I was extremely concerned that whatever it was that Mr. Giuliani was doing might not be legal.”
Hill told by NSC western hemisphere official that associates Giuliani was working with were notorious, involved in strange dealings in Venezuela, not above board
Hill on working extraordinarily long days, but having to track what Giuliani was saying almost every night on TV: People were constantly saying to me: My God, have you seen what Giuliani is saying now?&it was clearly starting to create this..meta alternate narrative about Ukraine
Hill: I came to realize that one way or another Ukraine was being used as part of the discussions & debates around the elections..I saw..being bundled together: somebody’s nefarious business dealings,..alternate retellings of what happened in 2016..digging up dirt on candidates
...all based on what Giuliani himself was saying
Hill: Sondland said he was talking to the President and Mulvaney, “filling in” Bolton/NSC, then talking to Pompeo counselor Ulrich Brechbuhl
Hill said she was shocked when she read redacted transcript of Trump Zelensky 7/25 call to see Trump threats against Amb. Yovanovitch, demand to investigate the Bidens. “I have not seen anything like this. & I was there for 2 1/2 years. So I was just shocked.”
intelligence related mentions seemed to get redacted in other parts of transcript, but Hill says p. 271 she’d asked their intelligence directorate to reach out to the chief of station at US mission to EU to brief sondland again
Hill: Also within Eisenberg’s portfolio, to have these kinds of concerns about..inadvertent disclosure..if somebody is being targeted by foreign powers. & basically at this point, Sondland has made himself a target for foreign powers, b/c he’s telling people, I can get u into WH
Hill: Russia “very interested in finding out whether they can drive a wedge btw Ukraine & the US.” Putin “himself always points to corruption in Ukraine. It’s become kind of shorthand for this is not a..sovereign country.”
Hill on official in NSC exec secretariat in May saying Trump may want to speak to Ukraine director Kash and Kash Patel not being Ukraine director. “So I basically did not engage any further because I was wondering to myself: that’s very strange.”
Hill: Let’s just say it’s a red flag, when someone you barely know is involved on..one of your policy issues and is clearly providing..materials outside of the line that we don’t even know what those materials were
Q:..directly to president?
Hill: that’s what I was led to believe
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