Here is a strong illustration of the average knowledge haters have when it comes to arguing MJ's guilt. This comes from Reddit's "no defenders" hater sub, from a Twitter user.
Let's count how many claims they make that shows they don't even bother to Google what they speak of.
Let's count how many claims they make that shows they don't even bother to Google what they speak of.
GUILTER: Corey freely admitted to MJ showing him porn when he was 13. CSA on its own.
FACT: Corey claimed to had once found a book "on venereal diseases" & MJ then sat down to explain topic. This was all part of Corey's Bashir piece which he soon-after claimed was deceptive.
FACT: Corey claimed to had once found a book "on venereal diseases" & MJ then sat down to explain topic. This was all part of Corey's Bashir piece which he soon-after claimed was deceptive.
GUILTER: ...the rumors about Mexican twins accusing him in the 80s.
FACT: This was the creation of Gutierrez after Chandler allegations broke, alleging presidential cover-ups etc. to make these kids "disappear." FBI, LAPD and SBSO all determined the claims to be unfounded.
FACT: This was the creation of Gutierrez after Chandler allegations broke, alleging presidential cover-ups etc. to make these kids "disappear." FBI, LAPD and SBSO all determined the claims to be unfounded.
GUILTER: ...the 17 accusers who have apparently privately come forward.
FACT: The tabloid stories of $200M in payoffs and 11-20+ victims is purely imaginative. No accusers beyond Chandler/Francia were ever noted from state despite global search + hotline & WR/JS PR since 2014.
FACT: The tabloid stories of $200M in payoffs and 11-20+ victims is purely imaginative. No accusers beyond Chandler/Francia were ever noted from state despite global search + hotline & WR/JS PR since 2014.
GUILTER: ...the erotica and mannequins found.
FACT: They found adult heterosexual materials at MJ's residence and in his hard drive searches, no child erotica anywhere. This point means nothing except MJ was a normal heterosexual male. The mannequin remark is fully meaningless.
FACT: They found adult heterosexual materials at MJ's residence and in his hard drive searches, no child erotica anywhere. This point means nothing except MJ was a normal heterosexual male. The mannequin remark is fully meaningless.
GUILTER: the story of Michael and Jordan disappearing into a bathroom for 30 fucking minutes.
FACT: This is a story brought to you by Wade Robson and embellished even further by guilters. Jordan never alleged he'd disappear w/ MJ to be sexually abused when others were over.
FACT: This is a story brought to you by Wade Robson and embellished even further by guilters. Jordan never alleged he'd disappear w/ MJ to be sexually abused when others were over.
GUILTER: Jordan apparently coming to the FBI during the Arviso trial.
FACT: The opposite actually happened. The FBI reached out to Jordan Chandler in 2004. Jordan opposed them and said he "had no interest in testifying against MJ" & "would legally fight any attempt to do so."
FACT: The opposite actually happened. The FBI reached out to Jordan Chandler in 2004. Jordan opposed them and said he "had no interest in testifying against MJ" & "would legally fight any attempt to do so."
GUILTER: Evans phone call being misinterpreted.
FACT: The complete transcripts & recordings of Evan show him to be just as extortion-driven and crooked as the popular excerpts. Even most guilters, including Diane Dimond, concede Evan was looking for money before the allegations.
FACT: The complete transcripts & recordings of Evan show him to be just as extortion-driven and crooked as the popular excerpts. Even most guilters, including Diane Dimond, concede Evan was looking for money before the allegations.
GUILTER: Jordan sitting on MJs lap during an award ceremony...
FACT: Lily, not Jordan, sat on MJ's lap through portions of the award show to give her a better view. Jordan never sat on MJ's lap, but on a chair.
FACT: Lily, not Jordan, sat on MJ's lap through portions of the award show to give her a better view. Jordan never sat on MJ's lap, but on a chair.
GUILTER: ...the rumour that Jordan is now a child sexual abuse therapist.
FACT: I have never heard this rumor before. Also one of his accusers became an infomercial & marketing director, another a real estate agent. Were they groomed and abused to take on those careers also?
FACT: I have never heard this rumor before. Also one of his accusers became an infomercial & marketing director, another a real estate agent. Were they groomed and abused to take on those careers also?
Every single sentence of that guilter passage was easily disprovable lies.
Of course there are several guilters who would know all of that spew was inaccurate and untrue. Do you supposed they'd correct this user with reality? Nope, they upvote & agree anyway.
Guilter (il)logic.
Of course there are several guilters who would know all of that spew was inaccurate and untrue. Do you supposed they'd correct this user with reality? Nope, they upvote & agree anyway.
Guilter (il)logic.
