@PhilAldrick You/the U.K. Gov cannot seriously have thought that the CETA trade deal (all 1200 pages of it) could simply be applied to the U.K., with “Canada” rubbed out and the U.K. inserted, given the balance of trade - the goods and services sold- are so markedly different in their impact
@PhilAldrick The offer of a broad & deep FTA along the lines of CETA means just that. And the EU has repeatedly made it super clear that LPF rules would apply. Indeed they have them in CETA.
Depending on the goods and services we intend to sell, then the LPF rules will be tailored to them.
Depending on the goods and services we intend to sell, then the LPF rules will be tailored to them.
@PhilAldrick As to the Telegraph reference to. Johnson ‘s Australia style deal? Exactly which EU-Aus deal?
1/ it is under negotiation not concluded
2/ The LPF rules that apply to Oz will be tailored to their markets. Of course.
1/ it is under negotiation not concluded
2/ The LPF rules that apply to Oz will be tailored to their markets. Of course.
@PhilAldrick CETA provides a framework for the negotiation on an FTA not a blueprint I.
Copying it would be like trying to squeeze an 18 stone rugby player into a size 8 dress.
Our trade patterns are different. The threats and benefits are different.
Copying it would be like trying to squeeze an 18 stone rugby player into a size 8 dress.
Our trade patterns are different. The threats and benefits are different.
@PhilAldrick That is not “playing dirty”.
That is being a negotiator in a rôle where you do your best to protect your own interests whistle maximising the both sides benefits.
The victim mentality you adopt here “playing dirty” “totally unreasonable” will only lead to a poor outcome.
That is being a negotiator in a rôle where you do your best to protect your own interests whistle maximising the both sides benefits.
The victim mentality you adopt here “playing dirty” “totally unreasonable” will only lead to a poor outcome.
@PhilAldrick I’ve just double checked CETA (that took 7 years to negotiate).
It is 1,598 pages long and has 30 chapters.
Of course it won’t be identical. Of course a U.K. deal will be tailored and given the daft timescale the PM has set it will be VERY limited. Barebones. He’s a twit.
It is 1,598 pages long and has 30 chapters.
Of course it won’t be identical. Of course a U.K. deal will be tailored and given the daft timescale the PM has set it will be VERY limited. Barebones. He’s a twit.
@PhilAldrick I have also just gone back and checked the wording of A77 of the Politcal Declaration THAT JOHNSON SIGNED dealing with LPF.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/upl…
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/upl…
@PhilAldrick Given the Union and the United Kingdom's geographic proximity and economic interdependence, the future relationship must ensure open and fair competition, encompassing robust commitments to ensure a level playing field. The precise nature of commitments should be commensurate....
@PhilAldrick ..the scope and depth of the future relationship and the economic connectedness of the Parties. These commitments should prevent distortions of trade and unfair competitive advantages.
@PhilAldrick To that end, the Parties should uphold the common high standards applicable in the Union and the United Kingdom at the end of the transition period in the areas of state aid, competition, social and employment standards, environment, climate change, and relevant tax matters”
@PhilAldrick There is more but that is quite literally what Johnson signed up to.
It is from the docs on the Government’s own website. He has a team of lawyers and trade experts that will have spelt out to him what this was likely to mean.
It is from the docs on the Government’s own website. He has a team of lawyers and trade experts that will have spelt out to him what this was likely to mean.
@PhilAldrick You, @PhilAldrick should be posting about why he did not bother too do his homework. Why he signed without taking the time to understand the implications. Instead he resorts to his usual lies and Brussels blaming.
Journalists should hold him to account if you want a good deal.
Journalists should hold him to account if you want a good deal.
@PhilAldrick And before you start some similar hare running about Raab’s weak and pathetic efforts to lay the blame on the EU for customs checks. Yes. They too were in the PD that Johnson surprised.
Now Raab IS a lawyer,minded was a Government lawyer so there really is no excuse.
Now Raab IS a lawyer,minded was a Government lawyer so there really is no excuse.
@PhilAldrick The Gov’s conduct isn’t a pathway to NO DEAL.
The press, IF you want the U.K. to have as good a deal as possible, should be to nail their lies and deceits so they know we shall blame THEM for a bad deal.
Time for them to GROW UP before they do for us all
The press, IF you want the U.K. to have as good a deal as possible, should be to nail their lies and deceits so they know we shall blame THEM for a bad deal.
Time for them to GROW UP before they do for us all
@PhilAldrick Also worth pointing out @PhilAldrick that the Government’s own referendum trade explanatory docs specifically referred to CETA and the LPF requirements. Johnson, Raab and you should read them.
Hat tip to @EmporersNewC for providing the links.
Hat tip to @EmporersNewC for providing the links.
