Thread by @TirsohCartoons

Fascism: This is now labeled as being "Far Right" despite it being created by a known former socialist. Being right wing, then we are lumped together with that, and called "Fascists" by those on the left, and thus labeled as dangerous extremists. With the assumption that we are

all "dangerous extremists" then they have a perfect excuse to justify their own extreme violence.
We all know how much each average ANTIFA member knows about history (almost nothing), so let us objectively look to see. ARE WE FASCISTS, and are fascists "far right wing" as so many

claim that Fascism is?

First, a primer on right vs left wing beliefs.

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Now right vs left does have different slight changes over the years, but in general, right wing is for SMALLER government, more free market, against massive global government

(though not against a smooth running global free market with appropriate checks and balances to keep a global market running).

On the Left, we have BIGGER or STRONGER government, both Nationalist and Globalist left wing governments/beliefs have existed, gun control,

and are far more often associated with state controlled propaganda, violent force in public protests and government actions, indoctrination through schools, and controls on belief systems and other areas of life.

Basically, force, control, and violence are often inseparable

with left wing beliefs. Yes they would disagree and call themselves "tolerant", but agree or not, violence is a well used tactic that has very often been made to serve left wing ideologies.

So what about Fascism. Does it really hold up to the "Far Right Wing" label that is put

on it? After all, if it is "Far Right Wing" in reality, there should be absolutely no problems with proving that, right????

First "Fascism comes from the word fasces. In ancient Rome, the fasces were a symbol,

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(Quote continued) often represented by someone holding many stalks of wheat, of strength through unity. The idea was that anyone can snap a single stalk of wheat and break it. Trying to snap an entire handful of wheat stalks at the same time, however, was another matter.

(Quote continued) Therefore, the idea of great strength through national unity in pursuit of power and greatness was a key component of fascist thought, and this symbol represented that idea to the masses." (End of quote)

So at the heart of it, the national strength and unity

that is at the core of Fascism would be something that CAN align with right wing, at least in part. Right wing beliefs can include a nationalist, rather than globalist perspective, but hold on just a bit. Some of the historical socialist and communist regimes were some of the

most isolated countries on the planet. Where real right wing believes in free trade and working with other nations that are all working together, but with their own interests at heart, socialist countries go to an extreme that right wing NEVER does.

Just painting right vs left

on the basis of national vs global therefore does not make any sense. It is not that simple. So lets look more in depth.

What are some other core beliefs of Fascism?

livescience.com/57622-fascism.…

"The proclaimed aims and principles of the fascist movement are perhaps of little consequence now. It promised almost everything, from extreme radicalism in 1919 to extreme conservatism in 1922."

So, yes Fascism is a pretty big grab bag of whatever gets the job done.

But remember that NATIONAL STRENGTH above all else is key here. Do not get this confused with what we believe. The national strength this is talking about is more of a collective strength of the power of the national government. This is NOT a far right principle, but rather

a far left one.

"Since fascists see national strength as the only thing that makes a nation "good," fascists will use any means necessary to achieve that goal. As a result, fascists aim to use the country's assets to increase the country's strength.

(Quote continued) This leads to a nationalization of assets, Montague said, and in this, fascism resembles Marxism." (Quote from previously linked site)

Does this sound like "Far Right Wing" to you yet?
After all, if this is in reality Far Right Wing, then it should be very easy

to show how much our beliefs are the same as this and how opposed to this that the left is, right?

Okay, what about some other core parts of this
1. Strong Government and a Dictator
2. Group is more important
3. Individualism is not good

4. "A strong sense of community" "are forged by common conviction, if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary." (quote from last linked site)
5. One's own group is the victim (Which side is always using victims to promote their agenda?)
6. Racism and Violence

So, was Fascism opposed to communism and socialism? Yes it was. But socialist groups were rival political groups. This was outwardly opposed to those groups and the specific ideologies they espoused, but was that public opposition the same thing as real difference of substance

of what their beliefs were? No not really. In the early 20th century, there were violent socialist groups taking over whole countries. There were many deaths and that was not all that popular in many circles.

Honestly, Fascism was used as a grab bag of promises with the intent

of getting the leaders in power.

But no matter how you look at it, there is no possible way of fairly describing Fascism as "Far Right Wing" or even right wing at all, in how this functions.

There is a similarity that it is against globalism, and it outwardly is against

communism, but that is where it stops.

Right wing groups DO NOT believe in strong governments, and especially do not tolerate the idea of dictators.
Right wing does not condone the use of violent groups to force groupthink. Right wing is more about individual freedom, something

that Fascism is squarely against. Right wing groups have not even since the civil way typically wanted racial division and race baiting. That is the left.

So when you look at it, YES, FASCISM IS FAR LEFT WING, NOT FAR RIGHT WING. It is openly critical of the socialist programs,

but does essentially the same thing with different names in an effort to make unpopular strong government and anti free will policies forced upon the people. It uses racial division, like the left constantly has done since the civil war to feed anger and violence.

So, honestly, anyone that says Fascism is "Far Right Wing" honestly does not either know what they are talking about, or intentionally is lying. It is a left wing belief that is used to slander right wing, while justifying violence.