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big question, can answer in full at some point, but one piece of it is that if you get involved in western occult stuff, even total “normies” who dip their toes in have experiences where they converse with demons. its very common. many people have told me about these experiences.
people dont “do the work” as they say their whole lives just for the aesthetic, theyre getting some results and thats how they get sucked deeper and deeper into it. obviously i am extremely against such practices but its naive to think that its entirely just dudes playing pretend
of course that is a huge element. many people are in there LARPing or theyre there for aesthetic reasons, but as i said if you get deep enough in people will open up and tell you about speaking with entities in mirrors and crystal balls and stuff, frequently. its very common.
i wont name names of people that lead this world to look into, its easy enough to find, but many people are initially surprised by the fact that when they do this with others the effect is actually strengthened, not weakened. whats happening to them isnt purely hallucination.
conversely on certain psychedelics, mostly DMT based ones, two people can interact with the same entity if they do the substance together and converse with it, have the same exact experience, this would be basically impossible if they were purely hallucinations.
sometimes of course they are hallucinations. but once you hear enough stories about two people or more having experiences where they have concrete interactions with such beings you have to go a little deeper into non-noetic, i.e not purely happening in the mind style explanations
damn im enjoying the stories some people are dropping but im pretty creeped out rn so just reminding all entities that this is a christian space, in the name of Jesus i rebuke all malevolent forces 
in short get rekt demon scum
