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In his Fox interview at the cemetery in France, Trump told a new lie about NATO — saying Stoltenberg “made a speech the other day, he said, without Donald Trump maybe there would be no NATO.”

NATO pointed me to their Stoltenberg speech transcripts, which include no such remark.
Stoltenberg has regularly credited Trump for his part in pressing NATO members to spend more on defense, but he’s never said anything to suggest NATO wouldn’t exist without Trump. Statement from NATO official:
Trump also repeated two other false claims about NATO:
- “For the last 15 years it’s like an escalator down and now it’s like a rocket ship up.” Military spending by NATO members increased 1.84% in 2015, 3.08% in 2016, pre-Trump-presidency. That’s the 16th time Trump said this.
- “I think we were really paying close to 100 percent of NATO.” US military spending represented 72% of total NATO military spending in 2017, NATO says. The US pays an agreed-upon 22% of the actual NATO budget. Trump has now given incorrect figures 25 times.
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