you cannot reason with or actually have a conversation with individuals that have been successfully ushered into their own form of psychological totalism. watch this video then look at what the poster and people are “hearing” in the comments.
their internal language, what humans use to think, is loaded with too much previous information and intentionally designed thought terminating cliches. their brains are a set of arrows that all point to each other in a closed loop. you cannot break that cycle from the outside
this is intentional. this is how our society has rapidly gone through the process of “thought reform”. you cannot reason with such people. you can only hope to shake the people that havent 100% committed out of it and to show other “unreformed” people that its happening. thats it
are you familiar with the concept of a “strange loop”. its a loop wherein the end leaps back to the beginning but in a way that is concealed or unintuitive. this is the most classic example (image). in these peoples brain someone else has created an informational strange loop. 
