To those that continue to push for arrests and convictions to be the end all be all. After three years & $40 million of effort the Mueller team got 5 low level people, mostly with process crimes. And their punishment?
1)Papadopoulos 14 days jail
2)Gates 45 days jail on weekends
1)Papadopoulos 14 days jail
2)Gates 45 days jail on weekends
3) Roger Stone TBD
4) Manafort 7 1/2 years for crimes committed before he even knew Trump
5) Cohen 3 years in jail for crimes that had nothing to do with Trump
4) Manafort 7 1/2 years for crimes committed before he even knew Trump
5) Cohen 3 years in jail for crimes that had nothing to do with Trump
The only person that was considered part of Trump's "inner circle" Gen. Flynn was charged with a process crime (lying to the FBI) Sentencing is still TBD. I doubt it will be longer than a month or so of jail time if any.
Three lesser known people that had absolutely nothing to do with Trump was also "caught up" by Mueller probe
1)Ricard Pinendo (Russian troll farmer) 6 months jail/6 months house arrest
2) Alex van def Zwaan (tied to Gates not Trump) 30 days jail
3)Kilimmlnik(Gates and manafort)
1)Ricard Pinendo (Russian troll farmer) 6 months jail/6 months house arrest
2) Alex van def Zwaan (tied to Gates not Trump) 30 days jail
3)Kilimmlnik(Gates and manafort)
Not exactly a deterrent. Avg jail time for process crimes so far is 30 days in jail.
Avg jail time for tax charges/identity theft 3.8 years.
That's it. That's what indictments and arrests get you. Avg jail time 30 days for lying. If you cheat on taxes you might get 4 years
Avg jail time for tax charges/identity theft 3.8 years.
That's it. That's what indictments and arrests get you. Avg jail time 30 days for lying. If you cheat on taxes you might get 4 years
$40 million of taxpayer money, three years and that's it. To me that's a total waste of time and taxpayer money.
So if you need a "process" indictment and arrest for say Comey lying to the FISA court where he may get 30 days in jail for you to considered it a win, have at it.
So if you need a "process" indictment and arrest for say Comey lying to the FISA court where he may get 30 days in jail for you to considered it a win, have at it.
The IG report last week calling out the FBI leadership, debunking Schiff's memo and giving a black eye to the entire fake media IMO was a much bigger win for our side than any "process" indictment will ever be.
I hope the indictments when/if they come from Barr and Durham will be much bigger than a "process" crime. Those types of indictments take more time to bring because the case is much more detailed. AG Barr said it will be late spring/summer before Spygate investigation ends.
Let me be clear here. I'm not against indictments nor arrests for the coup plotters. In fact, if you have followed me for awhile you should know I want max punishment for these bastards. I'm simply pointing out there are many different ways to win besides indictments and arrests
When you factor in that the left still has many people within the deep state of the DOJ, having indictments and arrests as your only measure of success will most likely leave you disappointed in a lot of ways. The ultimate measure of success should be election victories.
It's only with election victories that we can begin to return justice to its proper place and make sure no one is above the law, not even Democrats.
