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To those with an FBPE hashtag who are 'offended' by my latest comments:

1. Those with that hashtag often seem the most easily offended people in the universe. Any criticism is taken as a personal affront.

2. Suck it up. Grow a pair. Like you expect everyone else to ALL THE TIME
And I'll also ask you a question: did you even bother to inform yourselves that under FPTP, there are so many more Leave seats than Remain seats?
If the answer is 'yes', then demanding Labour was 100% Remain was a suicide wish.

If the answer is 'no', then before you start slagging off everyone else for being 'thick' or 'uninformed', how about starting with yourselves?
Oh, and by the way: if any of you voted Tory or Lib Dem in 2015, justifying it by how Ed Miliband looked while eating a bacon sandwich, you don't get to complain now. Because you helped all this come about.
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Shaun Lawson
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There's actually quite a serious point in all this: one for everyone to chew on. What do we do in any democracy when so many people are just wrong?
Wrong about austerity - which is based entirely on lies.

Wrong about Brexit (Hard or No Deal Brexit, at least) - which is also based entirely on lies.

Wrong about immigration: without which, we can't afford the NHS or pensions.
If we tell them they're wrong, we look condescending, arrogant, out of touch and like we think we're somehow better than them.

If we just nod our heads, we become complicit ourselves.

Seriously... what do we do?
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Shaun Lawson
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Not bugging me in the slightest.

The exit poll comes from a group of genuine experts who spend the day in a bunker, poring over all sorts of details they're receiving from polling stations. They do an absolutely sensational job... have done ever since the fiasco of 1992.
Again, just to run through this conspiracy theory:

1. The exit polls are pretty much always right. Strangely, I can't recall anyone making this argument when it was right in 2017.
2. The Tories had been a long way ahead in the opinion polls ever since Johnson became leader... and especially after he announced his deal. That's why the lead grew through November.
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Shaun Lawson
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Given the, um, 'discussions' going on earlier, here's a thread for you. How could our departure from the EU have been avoided? How culpable are Labour, Corbyn or anyone else? I'll try to keep this civil. It's Christmas, after all.
I'm going to take this back a long, long way. To New Labour. Specifically:

1. Their failure to ever hold a referendum on anything to do with the EU, which only made the public steadily more and more angry

2. Their failure to put any limits on mass immigration from the east
Other EU states did limit it. The UK did not: essentially because the UK's flexible markets and service-based economy demands lots of immigration. Which highlights New Labour's failure to do anything about those markets or that unsustainable economy.
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Hilary. I'm a Joiner. We all are.
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#FBPE. Thread ⏬

With the latest Chaos we've reached #RefFraudDay.

That's when you look at the 2016 Referedum and you can't find a single promise that 2019 Brexit is delivering.

In most cases Brexit makes things worse.

My view. That invalidates A50 without a revoke vote.
Let's look at 2016 Brexit promises surviving. How is A50 Valid? #FBPE

For 3 years Brexiters told us NI was an EU Plot.
⏩Reality Brexiters forgot about NI

May said no PM would ever divide the UK down the Irish Sea.
⏩"Patriotic" BJ then proposed just that. As a deal?
These "Patriots"

Dumped the most complicated Political Project since...forever

Into the most sensitive part of UK

With the most TROUBLED past

And fragile failing devolution

Without thinking it through

Then blamed EVERYONE except themselves?

For their fatal Brexit flaw?
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Hilary. I'm a Joiner. We all are.
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#FBPE With the frankly bizarre news today that Northern Ireland is the latest sacrificial lamb to #Brexit, let's talk seriously about Open-Ended Mandates, Article 50 Validity and resetting the ratchet

Brexit has become a farce which no-one voted for. And *that* BREAKS Article 50
For context on Northern Ireland, read Peter Foster's thread. The unmasking helps because the most ardent Brexiter can't claim Northern Ireland was part of the Brexit mandate

Why? They famously forgot about NI in 2016. We did NOT vote to split the UK

Now let's talk "Consent of the Governed". In Summary and in thread:

Monarchs had divine power, which was limited by consent

Brexiters cannot behave like divine monarchs, stretching definitions of consent infinitely or saying consent was given by omission
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As a race we strive forward. They are hard earned steps sometimes against a gail force wind, but we push on because that's what we do. It is a function of the desire of billions of people to move forward. 1/
It is an expression of hope in the belief that the next day can be a better day. It is that hope that keeps us alive. For without hope we are lost. It is a hope that preserves and keeps us and it a hope worth fighting for. 2/
People want a better tomorrow for themselves, for their family, for their children, for the people around them. And they know that if society is better, if it evolves, then that will be a better society to live in for them and those close to them. 3/
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Lesley Miller
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Dear Remoaners thanks for all the aggression & insults over the last few YEARS, however, I still do not want to remain in a United States of Europe. #WTOBrexitNOW
1. I do not want to be ruled by a dictatorship
2. I do not want UK to be part of the failed Euro
3. I do not want UK to have to pay membership to trade
4. I do not want UK restricted in trade by the Customs Union cabal
5. I do not want UK to be part of an EU army
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7. I do not want EU bureaucracy adding cost to our products
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Paul Cotterill
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I get why Corbyn went solely on buses last week at #pmqs now - to leave @EmilyThornberry the space this week to set out Labour's CU/SM bilateral position very clearly for pre-election record. She's better at this detail than him. This is the key bit from Hansard today
In an ideal world, this would be going viral on the #fbpe hashtag as, short of full Remain, it's what they've been demanding - full compliance with CU/SM conditions as set by EU to secure a deal, including on FoM controls as currently set in EU law.
But as with the @JPonpolitics example, any such wave of #fbpe virality is hampered by the commentariat's refusal/inability to understand/portray Labour's position on a a bilateral deal.
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#FBPE is on the same side as:
TUC
Unite, GMB & Community Unions
CBI, IoD, FSB, BCC & EEF
Labour NW & West Midland MPs
Majority of Labour MP's
Majority of UK population
UK public
Majority of Labour members
LibDem
Green Party
NUS
On: #CustomsUnion #SingleMarket & #PeoplesVote
The transport union, TSSA:
"The left should unite now and come together to stop this Tory act of war against our class...

Supporting Tory/UKIP Brexit is unacceptable class collaboration.
Full stop.

I like this. This is fighting talk

Ref:
tssa.org.uk/en/whats-new/n…

#StopBrexit !!
TSSA General Secretary, Manuel Cortes:

"Our focus is our people, their rights and those of their families, which includes retaining their ability to move across EU borders freely”.

TSSA was and is in favour of remaining in the EU.

tssa.org.uk/en/Your-union/…

#FBPE
#StopBrexit
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