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1.This is a thread for my fellow Remainers in the #fbpe movement. There were some threads yesterday which have caused upset in our community and a shaking of people’s confidence. Well I awoke his morning with these thoughts on my mind and wanted to get them down on paper.
2. We have the privilege of having some excellent specialists in their fields fighting by our side, I thank each and every one of them. But it is by THEIR SIDE. They know the technocratic stuff and understand the legalities of treaties and trade deals.
3. But all of that on it’s own is not what will get us a peoples vote and our personal opinions, worldview and knowledge and experience should hold equal weight when considering our own positions.
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Great that Labour voices are calling for a #finalsay, but we have to be honest about what it will be on.

There’ll be no vote on Chequers as it’s already been rejected by EU27.

EU27 very unlikely to agree to renegotiate at that point, so Norway+ won’t be an option. 1/
The choice, of a Withdrawal Agreement happens, will be between a) accepting it, b) rejecting and no deal, and c) rejecting and revoking Art50 2/
As rejecting the WA for no deal is utterly, criminally, bat-shit mental self-immolation, Parliament should reject it as an option, leaving the question as the Withdrawal Agreement as agreed vs Revoking Art50. 3/3
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The government has zombified its Brexit position but clutches the corpse: I tell Vanessa Feltz on BBC Radio London why May and Johnson’s fight is an embarrassing side-show, and why Chequers is still eye-wateringly dead
Boris Johnson is right that Chequers gives us less control than we have now, but UK government is out of options. No-deal can’t happen; that means a deal will; and the EU has no incentive to budge. We know how this story ends
Meanwhile, Macron has said he doesn’t want a ‘blind Brexit’. I explain what that is and why there’s a strong chance we won’t get it anyway, thanks to implicit demands of Irish backstop. Vanessa was also good enough to correct my #AccidentalPartridge when I misquoted Dylan Thomas
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#BrexitConcerns from the ONS about a worrying disparity in our trade statistics.

"in 2016, Britain recorded imports of services from seven countries of £68bn: but those countries registered total exports to the UK of £140bn"
ft.com/content/9f1d7a…
Seems there is even more at stake than we realised.

Brexit is a bad decision.
I haven't a clue why the colours on that pic are inverted.
Here it is.
Just another huge reason to #LookB4WeLeave

#FinalSay #FinalSayForAll
#ProjectFear #BrexitReality
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Sign up for #FinalSay today.
Let's look before we Leave.
We need change, but this is not the change we are looking for
#LookB4WeLeave

Better safe than sorry.
Do you want this future?
It's in the hands of the People.
Please help put the brakes on Brexit
change.org/p/theresa-may-…
I miss summer already.
Crisp chill in the air.
The washing didn't dry on the line this afternoon.
The nights are drawing in.
But there's a different feeling to the usual turn of the seasons.
A dread, building these past years.
Brexit is coming & it will break #OurNHS
#StopBrexit
Why aren't more People helping to #SaveOurNHS?
Vote Leave's campaign was about giving tons of much-needed money to the NHS.
That's not going to happen.
In fact #OurNHS representatives say Brexit will break it
Let's check (democratically!) that enough of us want that eh?
#FinalSay
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1. Every day I awaken hoping MPs would just once challenge the validity of a #Brexit that Robs us of Rights & makes us Poorer based on a non-Binding result the votes of only 25.6% of the Ppl, 37% voters & 51.8% of those voting..many of whom now regret it.
But no it's the same old
2. Autocrats of Right & Left more interested in imposing their wills on the Ppl than the current Will of the Ppl, deny us a #PeoplesVote & a #FinalSay with a #Remain option, on the basis it would undermine democracy, disillusion voters & fuel the Far Right. So #Brexit must happen
3. I repeat...the result was non-Binding & backed by only 26.5% of the Ppl 37% voters. But also these 'Democrats' don't just deny a #PeoplesVote ..they choose to ignore the flawed & probably illegal basis upon which the Ref was based. Cambridge Analytica, Foreign interference etc
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1. Labour Schism: the threat's real if there's not a major shift in #Brexit policy at Conference.
A #BrexitShambles harms UK
A #PeoplesVote is Democratic
A #FinalSay Confirms the Will
#Remain + Current Deal is Best Deal
Prob is the Leadership Stance
#FBPE
ft.com/content/e03f1e…
1a Big diffs between 1980s & today's #Brexit emergency which play to a new Centrist Grouping not being SDP2..
1. Politicised Remainers
2. Party loyalty less strong
2. Far Right infiltration of Tories
3. Macron
4. LibDems a Catalist with a base
5. Big Funders
A new party is Viable
1b IMHO #Brexit must be stopped before a Gen Elect...time's too short for that & a Ref & this #BrexitShambles can't be sorted in a multi issue GE unless Labour stands full square behind
#Reject #Revoke #Remain #Reform
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<thread>1. To reify means to take a process & make it static like an object whilst endowing that “object” with special powers.

Referendum voting was a flawed process in which Electoral Law was broken by domestic organisations. It was also flawed b/c of who was disenfranchised.
2. Following flawed process that was subject to criminal acts, the RESULT was reified.

Meaning, made like an object with magical powers.

The BBC, newspapers & major political parties cooperated in the reification of the result.

UKIP agenda treated as worth appeasing.
3. General Election 2017 called by Prime Minister in April 2017 dissolved the HMG that had sent a leaflet to households dissolved.

Any promise the previous government had made no longer bound the new Parliament.
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1. I'll try once again.
@SkyNews @SkyNewsPolitics @Channel4News @BBCNews @BBCr4today etc etc...

WE ARE HAVING RIGHTS REMOVED

THIS HAS NO CONSENT

Lies
llegalities
Citizens affected disenfranchised

It's not all about the Economy.

#PeoplesVote 4 a #FinalSay & a #Remain option
2. UK citizens at Home & Abroad will lose Rights....

hrw.org/news/2017/07/1…
3. Other EU country citizens in the UK will Lose Rights

uk.businessinsider.com/all-the-rights…
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1. Yes @UKLabour it is nearly beyond time..back your members...back your voters...back the Maj of the Ppl & actively Oppose not Appease.
Your 1st priority is to the Country. #Brexit in any form harms it.
@Labour4EU know it...Unions know it..Momentum too. theguardian.com/business/2018/…
2. Don't let the Govt stall or the @EU_Commission give them more time. Any #Brexit will become a Tory one..it hands the UK to the Far Right & ERG.
The Ref validity is long gone...past its Use By date.
Lies, Illegalities & Rights to be Removed w/o CONSENT.

#PeoplesVote #FinalSay
3. PS Extensions, Renegotiations, Re-entry, Transitions & a Blind #Brexit are Tory #Brexiter & Labour #Lexiter #RedKipper CONS...
All lead to a Tory #BrexitShambles which Removes Rights & Impoverishes the UK...

#PeoplesVote for a #FinalSay with a #Remain #Reform option
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@TomTugendhat @Andrew_Adonis Let's look at the facts:
1. The Ref MPs voted for was advisory
2. Cameron then made it binding in the minds of voters who don't understand the niceties of our constitution, which was shabby & underhand of him, because he created a political imperative to take the Ref advice

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@TomTugendhat @Andrew_Adonis 3. Parliament never formally made the decision to leave, but gave Mrs May the power to trigger #Article50 through the shameful A50 Bill (launched before its rubbish White Paper was released), which converted Parliament into an irrelevant rubber stamp in the #Brexit process.

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@TomTugendhat @Andrew_Adonis 4. Under pressure from the Economic Ruin Group (ERG), Mrs May triggered A50 prematurely, without impact assessments and, crucially, without agreement in her party as to what form #Brexit should take, let alone a plan.

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So @uklabour Front Bencher @barrygardiner in this tweet (to fellow Labour MP @BenPBradshaw) seems to think there aren't really any leave voters who are pushing to reconsider #Brexit with a #PeoplesVote

Why don't we examine why that's completely false.

A #remainernow Thread

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So Barry could start here, remainernow.com/remainer_now_s…

This is the stories page of remainernow.com which (so far) has four excellent longer videos of leave voters who are now passionate about a #PeoplesVote and want to #StopBrexit

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Alternatively @BarryGardiner could go here remainernow.com/rn_in_the_news

Here is the #remainernow in the news section, where we upload stories regretful leavers get on print media. This is just what we have uploaded since launching last month but some great articles. #PeoplesVote

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This is @KateHoeyMP labeling @Superdry's financial contribution to promote a #FinalSay, as "slave labour money"...
@KateHoeyMP @Superdry The same @KateHoeyMP who accepted a gift of flights & accommodation to Washington DC in July 2017 (valued at over £5,000) from Arron Banks of the Leave.EU campaign...

theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10282
@KateHoeyMP @Superdry That's Arron Banks whose family wealth came from his father owning a literal plantation in post-WWII Africa.

Arron Banks who outsources his insurance companies' call centres to a company called Outwork, in Durban, South Africa.

thebristolcable.org/2017/07/rise-r…
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Last year, when I was really suicidal because #BrexitReality has unbalanced me, I made this petition to David Davis asking for a FinalSay.
you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/meas…

I'm grateful to everyone who signed up, but it made no difference & I nearly gave up.
Rumble strips are a godsend.
I'm OK but I must fight those feelings of helplessness every single day.
#BrexitIsPersonal

Then there was another #FinalSay petition on @HocPetitions petition that, despite @DExEUgov trying to reject it, went to (great) debate in December 2017.

@HoCpetitions @DExEUgov How much longer do we need to wait until we all accept that we need to put the brakes on & check Brexit?

We'll never be United Kingdom without #FinalSay

It's a result we can all respect, however it turns out

Better safe than sorry

Look before we Leave

change.org/p/theresa-may-…
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So tired of all this Brexshit.
I wish I could find the generator of the Someone Else's Problem field that has bewitched people
#TheyAreLyingToUs

Next they will ask us to #RespectTheResult.
I will, when it is a respectable result. Not this #Brexitshambles
#Fairvotenow #FinalSay
Brexit won't just hit the UK.
Many of the places it will affect the worst did not choose it.
I get Brexiters don't care about me, but is everyone really OK with the fact that this will seriously impact on all our neighbours too?
We're not just shitting our own bed in protest here
Maybe I'm wrong but I do not want to believe that enough people were aware of this + all the other things that voting Leave would mean.
This is why I want #EUref2
I don't #RespectTheResult - because I #RespectTheRules & informed Democracy
#VoteLeaveCheated #VoteLeaveBrokeTheLaw
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I'm supposed to be in #AltUK for a couple of weeks.
I'm losing my hope along with my sleep and my sight.
Quite exhausted.
Much love to @spaceangel1964 who I met at the start when we were all shell-shocked staggering sucker-punched & has fought so hard to put the brakes on Brexit
@spaceangel1964 Bannon is Brexit
Trump is Brexit
Putin is Brexit
Johnson is Brexit
Farage is Brexit
Banks is Brexit
Rees-Mogg is Brexit

Is that who you are?
#FinalSay
@spaceangel1964 Please help to put the brakes on Brexit, before it's too late to steer away from the iceberg ahead without scuppering the ship

We need change but not for the worse

Let's Not Leave
Brexit is a bad decision
We need #FinalSay on our shared future or we'll never be a United Kingdom
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Just been called a fanatic by a #Corbynista #Lexiter for daring to suggest Labour need to back a #PeoplesVote for a #FinalSay with a #Remain option to thwart the Far Right #Brexit...2 out of the 3 likes he got were from the Far Right.
What have we become?!
#StopBrexitSaveBritain
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Original Tweet...Far Left & Right all over me for daring to back an anti Rigjt Alliance & a Democratic #PeoplesVote for a #FinalSay with a #Remain option
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2. A fundamental principle of the common law is that votes can be declared void for substantial irregularity. If irregularity affects the result of an election it is by itself enough to compel the tribunal to declare the election void.
3. The result doesn't need to be affected. Only a ‘substantial departure’ from the rules, or the election being ‘conducted so badly that it was not substantially in accordance with the law’ is needed to void the ballot.
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Cobyn will #Remain part of the problem sadly & his support for #Brexit & denial of a #PeoplesVote a #FinalSay with a #StopBrexit Brexit fails to create clear election
space between Labour & the Tories.
So I'll vote for neither... amp.ft.com/content/83bf11…
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1. Oh no you don't @MichelBarnier @guyverhofstadt @donaldtusk ..don't you dare sell out the majority of Brits who want to #StopBrexit & #Remain whether in the UK or in the EU. A #Brexit fudge won't be worth the paper its written on.
Stop pandering to May..she has no mandate.
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I have something to say about #finalsay.
As much as I agree with it in principle, if no law is passed to protect this ref from shadowy funds/online micro-targeting and no clarity is obtained on the million votes e-counted/counted by scanners needing the Internet... Pointless.
Even more pointless when so many people are just convinced they'll get the Brexit they voted for. These people are not the enemy. They are just trusting what they are told. And would be infuriated if the Ref result was Remain -and boldened to bully if it wasn't. Let's end the war
Tbh, the only way out I see is this 👇
The brexiters have no plan.
They can't agree w/ each other.
They can't find a solution for Northern Ireland.
Hopefully this could get traction again stockpiling no deal.
"No Brexit is better than a bad Brexit" until..
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1. All of this was predicted by some 2yrs ago & #Brexit lost when May backed by Corbyn invoked A50 w/o a clue what they were doing.
Gross negligence & a lack of due diligence. The deceitful party political game play since then is a travesty of Democracy. ft.com/content/0df20c…
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1. Sick to the back teeth of hearing the PM stating vaccous nonsense in Parl incl that she is implementing what the BritishPeople voted for.

No politician can now say what the People want..she has no right to subvert a false Will of the Ppl to her own Party political interest
2. She states 80% of ppl voted for parties backing #Brexit. This is arrogant rubbish as proven by any research undertaken. Many votes were tactical & a multi issue GE can't be taken as backing a given version or indeed any version. She lost her mandate Labour didn't win one!
3. There's only 1 way to determine the present majority Will of the Ppl & that's to give us a #FinalSay via a #PeoplesVote.
It must be BINDING
It must be a SIMPLE MAJORITY
It must be BINARY
Accept #Brexit Deal/No Deal OR
#Reject #Revoke #Remain #Reform
Nothing else can be valid
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On the left, pro-brexit march.
(link here in case it's needed: …)
On the right, anti-brexit march.
Now let's talk about how the Will of the People must be implemented.
#WillofthePeople #FinalSay
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