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@battle_machines
Mar 5, 2023 • 3 tweets • 3 min read • Read on X
Seeing #UKTwitter claiming that building a few hulls for new Challenger 2s is not a big deal. The issue is never if something can be built, but the following.
1. Cost per unit to restart building something out of production for decades/decade.
#Challenger2 #Challenger2forUkraine Image
2. Is the Government ready to accept that cost and place those much needed orders.
3. Time taken to actually build something from when order is placed (lead time)
#Ukraine #UkraineRussiaWar #Russia #RussiaUkraineWar️
Key is, the UK has pleged more vehicles without any plans or funding for new tanks. There are rumblings for a new SPH (K-9 vs Archer, maybe RCH-155) but nothing for a tank.

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