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Mar 23, 2023 5 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Our previous threads on naval vessels have highlighted the lack of AD on #Pakistan's #Zulfiqarclass, lack of any missiles on #Indian #Kamortaclass. But does an ideally armed vessel for its size look like? The #Russian Stereguschchiy class says hi! #εpsilon Image
These are sadly the only two blue water capable naval surface vessels #Russians have been able to produce in numbers. With 8 (including related Gremyashchiy) in service and 20+ planned, these will be the bulk of the #RussianNavy fleet Image
For a 2,000 tonne corvette the Stereguschchiys have 16 SAMs derived from the S350/S400 9M96 family of missiles capable of 40 km to 120 km engagement zone. The lead ship lacks this and has a Kashtan CIWS on the bow. They carry 8 Kh-35s as well. Gremyashchiys have a UKSK module... Image
for cruise missiles and different radars. Gremyaschchiys (in pic) radars and weapons are expected to be used on Stereguschchiys to make production easy as the hulls are derivatives and vice versa. Image
Correction:
Stereguschchiys: 12 Redut VLS cells bow, 8 Kh-35 amidships
Gremyaschchiys: 16 Redut VLS cells beside heli deck, 8 cell UKSK module for Klub/Kaliber/Onyx on the bow.

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