Some thoughts: I think collapse is more likely in the future than an Voluntary society
I think the collapse starts with the Feds finally going bankrupt. The debt spending no longer can go on and its finally exposed
Sure the Feds will try to keep its workforce going but I think there will see a mass exodus of its employees who get to points that their bills have to be paid
States will see that Fed money is no longer coming and will most likely form blocks if they cant outright secceed by themselves
Example: Main, Vermont, Mass, CT and New Hampshire form its own country as opposed to Texas and California becoming their own countries by themselves
However it is quite possible other states joining up with Texas or California, but I also believe both states can stand on it's own two feet
Depending on the economic polices that either state inact will show who lives on the long term
California essentially has a clear path to what would be the top economic powerhouse in the world aka China with the US breaking up
They also have a direct route with trade with Mexico. But this advantage would only work if they re-enact free trade which they would do out of spite because Trump is a protectionist
If Oregon and Washington State choose to also merge with California also theoritcally opens the trade route with Canada
However I think their local economic policies (strict housing, mass labor laws, minimum wage, etc) would cancel out or at least heavily diminsh free trade policies, even worse if they start warmongering (granted I dont see them going to war abroad)
Which leads me to think that Texas would last significantly longer as its own independent country
This year their own gold depository opened for business which is a good step in a sound money policy
zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-1…
zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-1…
On its face TX lawmakers understand sound money than the CA ones which I think will still use fiat
Not sure how much oil reserves TX has but one would expect them to explore them with the EPA essential out of business, which will only help them if they continue to export it
You also have to figure that they'll like CA will have at free trade policy with Mexico, the tricky part would to establish trade with China, given that trade with China would either have to go through California or Mexico
This also doesnt factor if other states that surround Texas decide to merge with them to form a new country
I figure after a Fed collapse states will simply refer back to their own consitutions and laws that run the day to day operations
Wild Cards in all this would be; the military, foreign countries and assholes who just want bloodshed
When word gets back to military bases abroad what do the regular soliders start thinking? Top brass will only be able to keep quiet for so long
Will soliders start revolting, try to get back to the US or just go AWOL and try to become citizens of the countries that their stationed at?
They're not being paid anymore to put their life on the line, so something is going to give with them, especially if they have families back in the US to take care of
To prevent violent mutinies, its possible that top commanders in these foreign bases will try to do right by them but most likely it wont be enough and everyone has a breaking point
This would also mark the end of the disastrous foreign policy, with no money the soliders just stop because, which has been my view for awhile, the only way the war machine stops is via the soliders saying "No" to one degree or another
Next wild card is foreign countries: Russia, China, EU, etc, what do they do?
While Russia and China again on it's face prefer peaceful relations I do see them recognizing the various new countries that pop up
I think most foreign countries who see a breakup via federal bankruptcy will just go the diplomatic route with the new set of nations
The big question is what do they do if stuff turns violent because of the third wild card; assholes who just want bloodshed
I am of the thought that if Civil War 2 became a reality that its going to be more than two sides
If such a war becomes a reality, you cannot think that the rest of the world especially the big players are just gong to sit back and watch
They'll get involved either directly (sending actual troops) or indirectly (loans, arms, advisors, etc)
If direct invasion happens one could see China doing here what they did to Maldives
news.com.au/world/maldive-…
news.com.au/world/maldive-…
I maintain the view that Civil War 2.0 would be won by the side that makes the best deal with China (paying back debt, trade promises, etc)
Yes Russia, the EU, UK, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel are there but I think China is the heavist hitter out of all of them. Assuming that China is still stable and not in it's own economic hell
As result of such a war would also have some states/countries end up being client/colony/buffer states of the bigger power that helps them no matter if they're on the winning or losing side. However even that will have problems if the bigger powers get too touchy
As my tweep @RisingDarkstar puts it, CA could very possibly become a Chinese territory, if war were to break out
Overrall those who think CW 2.0 is going to be a short lived on, I think are seriously misguided but also how much war sentitment would there be after the federal collapse, would be swelling or would it be just the loudest people get on the megaphone
For the record my preference is seccession over war
There is the possibilties of countries or groups launching false flags to drag others into said war.
Example I dont see Latin America or Canada getting involved in CW2 outside of trying to get all the sides to the peace table. But an attack on Toronto or any major Latin American city can turn the populace from no war to war really quick
The collapse is coming there is no doubt in my mind about that, just like a Ponzi scheme it eventually comes to an end
As my fellow AnCap @thefreerifleman has said #Collapsitarian isnt about cheering for the collapse (ok maybe a little) it's about preparing for it
Im not saying that im right and others a wrong all Im saying that these are the possible directions things will go post federal collapse
