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1) Great article

Remain & #PeoplesVote has grown *despite* the best efforts of the Tory & Labour Leadership, and the idea that #Brexit is inevitable has been killed

Whoever delivers a messy & costly Brexit will have to answer "but why did you carry on?"

theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/th…
2) but to follow on about the ask from left commentators that #PeoplesVote should "lovebomb the left"..has there ever been a more pathetic, weasal plea in politics?

The left (as in Labour members) don't *need* Lovebombing, they already know #Brexit is bad
3) the plea to "Lovebomb the Left" to stop #Brexit is really a plea to Lovebomb Corbyn & his associates, to pander to his ego and persuade him to do the right thing on #Brexit.

Why the f**k should we have to?

Shouldn't they already *know* this?

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1) 2 observations about David Davis comments here
1stly the really pathetic point about the no deal #Brexit leaders is that even they don't believe in no deal, its still basically the worst bluff in history, believing 27 nations will fold on a cakeism deal before we do
2) if you believe in "no deal" & WTO is "liberating" then why talk about using it as leverage to get that "better" #brexit deal?
It's the same, tired, "they need us more..." line with added idiocy (hint: if you're going to bluff, don't tell everyone)

3) secondly, why does Davis still get airtime? He's been utterly wrong on every single aspect of #Brexit.

He thought we could strike individual trade deals with Germany. He also promised "exact same benefits". He attended 4 hours of negotiations. In all honesty, he's an idiot
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Thoughts on #uncivilwar #Brexit
1) I thought it was good on the whole. Lots of details not covered, focused a lot on Cummings & didn't cover the corruption in Vote Leave enough but at the end of the day it's a drama, not a documentary
2) there's a lot of stuff Brexit geeks like me would have like to have seen covered but as it was, there was a lot of material in there which they covered at breakneck speed.

Couple of things jumped out for me though
3) Firstly the mood at the end of the film captured I think the mood in the country now. There is no joy in #Brexit, no triumphant outpouring.

No one is getting what they want, and Leave supporters are blaming others for Brexit not working
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1) You have a mortgage, several credit cards & a pay day loan so you go to the bank to restructure your finances

You can't get to an agreement & you can't afford the payments so you stop paying

But you still have the debt & now a busted credit score

This is no deal & the £39b
2) there's this idea that we save £39b if we #Brexit with no deal.
The obligation still exists, we've already agreed this. We're not "buying a deal" we're meeting commitments.
If we crash out & don't pay we're just sending a message, the UK is untrustworthy as well as incompetent
3) if you're the kind of person who thinks it's OK for the UK to walk away from a debt its already agreed to then you're probably the kind of person who doesn't pay his fair share of a meal, or gets his round in, or returns that borrowed drill

A bit of a shit basically
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1. 🤬🤬

According to the European Commission there are no changes to the citizens’ rights part of the withdrawal agreement:

thelocal.com/20181114/live-…

#BrexitDeal #brexit
2. This means no free movement for @BritishInEurope which 80% of our members rely on for work and family.
3. If true, this is a disgraceful on the part of the U.K. Govt and the Commission task force.
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How about a #Remain manifesto, agreed & promoted by all major Remain groups? #RemainManifesto

The purpose would be to explain how, if we Remain, we can address Leave's concerns and can commit a future govnt to enact them, to the letter. 1/20
The manifesto could address the main reasons we have been told for the Leave vote.

It could focus purely on the key areas - immigration, sovereignty, EU federal plans, EU wastefulness.
It could detail precise ways in which we can protect ourselves from these concerns. 2/20
hy not compromise by changing Britain as it is today, but not by leaving the EU? And save the cost & risk of Brexit.

But I think we should only address the areas directly detailed as being the reasons for the Leave vote. Not what we suspect may be underlying. 3/20
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#brexit seems to be all about feeling over fact and this is especially true of the ReesMogg ERG faction of the Tory right.
I never bought the line that #brexit is about Democracy because most of the Tory right had zero enthusiasm for improving democracy in the UK few of them care about unelected house of lords the unfair FPTP electoral system or transparency on the contrary
Most of the Tory right are interested only in constitutional changes that suit them and if anything strive to be as little democratically accountable as possible.
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Our country is sleep walking to disaster. We were captured by a Hard Right cabal which manipulated societal discontent with lies & fraud to win a narrow referendum. The horrific consequences of #Brexit are as plain as day. Yet our thick self serving politicians give not one
damn as long as they maintain their power and perks. So We, the People must take back control.

There are other centres of power in our society. Parts of the press, notable @guardian & @ChannelDash are TRYING to hold the corrupt MPs to account, they cannot trigger any change.
The enquiries run by @CommonsCMS & @ElectoralCommUK have no power, so are used by @theresa_may as long grass. However, real and significant crimes have been committed, and it is within the remit if the police to decide to investigate. I believe that a #FBPE campaign to
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1. Worst national leadership in my lifetime forcing through the most damaging, misguided & missold policy I can remember. Ideology & vested self interest replace statesmanship, soundbites replace sound judgement & autocracy subverts democracy.
#Brexit harms us irreparably #FBPE
2. A flawed Leave campaign based on lies, deceit, disingenuity & over simplification & a #Remain one fought w/o any positivity from the Govt & no real commitment from Labour, whose leader was virtually AWOL, did no justice to #Brexit complexity & betrayed our democratic process.
3. A mere 37% of voters/26.5% of the Ppl voted leave in a legally Non-Binding test of public opinion which has been corrupted, on the basis of an illegitimate political promise & interpreted as being the irrefutable Will of the Ppl.
The 1st is insufficient to claim the latter!
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