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Faisal Islam
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Bercow statement:

MPs on both sides have expressed concerns about House being repeatedly asked about same issue...

Quotes from Erskine May that it should not...

Convention dates back to April 1604
12 such Speaker rulings up until 1920...

Public Bill Office has often disallowed Bills on this basis...
Amber Rudd shaking her head in what appears to be disbelief...
Speaker says that the second Meaningful Vote could be credibly be considered different from the first...

Had three new documents...
Bercow concludes

If the Government wishes to bring forward a NEW proposition this would be in order... Government cannot submit to the House the same or substantially the same proposition...

This is the test the Government must meet

WELL WELL WELL
Chief Whip Julian Smith looks keen to contribute after the Speaker’s bombshell that Government can’t bring back same deal for MV3
Sir Bill Cash is now agreeing with Speaker
Ian Blackford asks for an immediate PM meeting with all parties.” And heads of Scottish and Welsh Govts...
Rees Mogg asks if this current 2 year session is prorogued, then the same proposition could be put in a new session - to which the answer is of course, Yes.
It was @Chukaumunna who floated this point in an interview with @SophyRidgeSky in January. @angelaeagle then raised it in the MV2 debate. @RhonddaBryant then tabled an amendment to extension vote...
Here’s the relevant extract - page 397 of Erskine May:
Our @lewis_goodall picked this up and covered it in depth last week
news.sky.com/story/an-ancie…
Two Government ministers genuinely really shocked by this - no chance now of MV this week, though that was looking doubtful already.

PM will now surely have to go to European Council and ask for a long extension ... and some sort of extra to justify MV3 next week...
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Faisal Islam
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Formal instrument of Article 50 extension was a letter sent by Sir Tim Barrow this morning after PM agreed with Tusk last night - that activated Paragraph 3 of Article 50 - the letter does not actually mention a date, but the EU Council (28) unanimous conclusion does mention both
nerdy but interesting... I had thought a specific date would have to have been agreed before A50 (3) was actually activated - but it has, with two dates mentioned.

But answer to the question - when will the Treaties cease to apply? Is now in EU law - “not March 29th”, not sure.
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Faisal Islam
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Yes LibDem leader did say this of his meeting with PM just before the Downing St speech - I have the clip ⬇️
Cable told me yesterday: “PM doubling down on No deal... She was asked at the meeting about the economic pain that would inflicted on millions of British people and the answer was people voted for pain... that was the conclusion I drew and I’m pretty certain she now believes it”
This was before the PM’s changed tone over extension agreement yesterday, it should be said, and I’m waiting for a response to this form Downing St - but Cable says this was the message he got from the PM meeting
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EU top official stressing today’s seat at the table for EEA members - popular option for compromise-seeking remainers, but in recent weeks Vote Leave campaigners such as George Eustice are pushing it hard, trying to persuade other Leavers around too...
The fundamental red line bar on the EEA option as far as Number 10 saw it - came because of need to accept Freedom of Movement, though are extra EEA powers to limit it. Not all Leavers share May view, particularly as market forces (£slide) have collapsed net EU migration anyway
other main issue for ERG is jurisdiction EU law - but it is not directly from European Court of Justice, its from intermediate court, also in Lux called the EFTA court - I visited a few weeks after referendum, when EEA still in play, before the red line:
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