Thread by @guessimafab

trans identified males have successfully convinced females (both trans-ID’d and non) in the queer community that there is no such thing as a afab-exclusive experience.

ill do my best to explain their argument. for clarity, ill use afab rather than female from here on, as that’s what the community does when arguing.

afab ppl of all gender IDs, sexualities, races, ethnicities, & experiences exist. therefore, no two afabs are exactly alike. 1/

it is already accepted as fact in trans spaces that trans women (amab) are female and trans men (afab) are male. therefore, it’s impossible to claim that is such a thing as a “coherent afab experience/class”, because some afabs are male and some are female. 2/

some afab ppl are unable to have children or do not have a womb at all, so it can’t be claimed that the ability to be pregnant or the presence of a womb is an afab-exclusive experience. you can’t claim that having a vagina is the thing that makes the afab experience coherent,
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as some trans women (post-SRS) have vaginas, and some trans men (post-SRS) do not. you can’t even claim that being a victim of misogyny is what makes afab people a coherent class, because trans men don’t experience real misogyny, just “misplaced misogyny”,
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the same way that acting misogynistic towards a cis man doesn’t actually affect him because he is male.
the purpose of this argument is to punish female people for organizing. when butch lesbians & trans men began to openly create communities together,
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it made trans ID’d males (esp lesbian ID’d ones) afraid. what if butch lesbians realized they had more in common with other afab people (trans men) than they did with lesbian ID’d males? it would mean realizing that it’s impossible to be male and lesbian. this wouldn’t stand. 6/

so they started their attack: trans men who make community with butch lesbians are men trying to invade lesbian spaces. they make lesbians unsafe. REAL lesbians are communities only of women and trans men aren’t women, so anyone who claims that trans men (projection, anyone?) 7/

have “coherent” experiences with butch lesbians are inviting men into lesbian spaces. they are unsafe to lesbians. they think trans men (afabs) have more in common with lesbians than trans women (amab) which means they think trans women are men. they are transmisogynists. 8/

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