Mute thread if that will be helpful to you. I will be talking a little about Mary Pride's utterly messed up book The Child Abuse Industry
From their homes
She says, "Ignore the fact that abuse means 'anything I don't like done to me'"
Yes, Mary, that IS what abuse means!!!
No, Mary, a lot of abuse cases don't make it to court because people like you call them, 'a bad experience on a date'.
Thanks for the math lesson, Mary.
Oh, did you hear that from an FBI agent, Mary.
BECAUSE IT IS VIOLENCE, MARY.
Mary, the number we are aiming for is '0' in all those areas.
I didn't think so.
Mary Pride actively tries to reduce statistics about abuse by family members this way, 'Abuse figures include anything from fondling to actual sexual intercourse'.
Yes. Mary. That. Is. What. Abuse. Is.
Mary.... Mary Pride.... Mary...
Why don't you sit yourself down so I can tell you about a little thing called 📢📢📢 ENTHUSIASTIC CONSENT.
📢 NO. SIT DOWN MARY.
And if everyone HAD been more careful in the 80s then maybe survivors wouldn't have gone through it!!!
Mary Pride then makes the case that, fair enough, sexual abuse does happen but it doesn't happen in the home it happens in, capital letters, 'Fornication.'
...no, no, I don't think...
Maybe, instead of crowing about it, Mary, teach boys about 📢📢📢 ENTHUSIASTIC CONSENT.
🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♂️ I CAN'T EVEN DEAL RIGHT NOW, MARY
I wonder if she would think the same if she took a look now at the traditional Christian organisations that spent decades hiding abuse.
Excuse me, Mary, but a lot of abuse DOES go unreported and I know that because I know survivors, and they are each incredible, brave and true.
Mary Pride uses, as proof that child abuse is made up by social workers, an example of a child who in a court hearing discloses that they have been touched, but then changed their story when cross examined.
She uses this one example to try and discredit child witnesses.
Children may contradict themselves, may show no emotion, may try to cover up the incident, may wait a long time to disclose.
MARY TWISTS IT
She infers that showing no emotion fit example USED to be proof the child was making it up, but now is used as proof the child is telling the truth.
📢📢📢 SIT DOWN, MARY
📢📢📢 KNOW THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE THEN
Childlines, she sees as encouraging children to make up stories about parents out of spite of rebellion (remember, in this Christian Extremist world children are super evil brats)
Yes, Mary, because before now children were used for labour, sold into marriages and often died at a young age. Was that some sort of golden age?
*some exaggeration perhaps, but only a little
Not at all.
She says, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. But this doesn't count in physical discipline, as she says parents are given authority to hit their children with the 'rod'.
She also says, simple as, death penalty for rape.
Um...Mary, while I appreciate the sentiment, its difficult enough to get abusers convicted to serve community service for sexual abuse, I'm not sure your method is the way
Excuse me, hands up if there were multiple witnesses to the abuse you suffered who are likely to come forward. No hands? None? Not one?
📢📢📢📢 MARY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUG AND SEXUAL ABUSE AND IF THERE ISN'T A DIFFERENCE THEN STOP HUGGING THAT PERSON THEY DON'T WANT IT
She wants to abolish child abuse hotlines. 'America does not need a KGB.' In other places she said that neighbours should mind their own business.
Because in Mary's mind, abuse doesn't exist in family homes but does in foster homes.
She says there should be social sanctions against people who get a divorce. 🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️
📢📢 MARY NO.
The way I see it is, if your porn involves a character or actor who is not giving Enthusiastic Consent then Stop.
Wouldn't recommend bogus Evangelical teaching on the subject, but there is help for anyone who needs it, if you find yourself drawn to nonconsenting porn, look for help please thank you.
But ultimately the book overall creates a Very Unsafe Environment in which parents cannot be challenged, children not believed.
Please help it happen."
Indeed, Mary, we ARE working for a child abuse IS a thing of the past, but the way to that is not by hiding it, ignoring it or