Osiris was originally a nature god who symbolized the vegetation cycle. Later, he also became the god of the dead and resurrection, ruling the underworld. He was both the brother and husband of Isis, and the father of Horus.
So, was Jesus based on Osiris?
No, and looking at the
So, was Jesus based on Osiris?
No, and looking at the
supposed similarities between the two will show that:
Virgin born?
Nope, he was the son of the god Geb and the goddess Nut, who had…SEX!
Repeat, SEX!
Virgin born?
Nope, he was the son of the god Geb and the goddess Nut, who had…SEX!
Repeat, SEX!
Three wise men at his birth? A Christmas star?
No on both counts.
Jesus Mythicists will try to say that he was visited by three wise men, and that these are the three stars in Orion’s Belt. These are supposed to point to the star Sirius, which is Osiris’ star.
Baloney.
No on both counts.
Jesus Mythicists will try to say that he was visited by three wise men, and that these are the three stars in Orion’s Belt. These are supposed to point to the star Sirius, which is Osiris’ star.
Baloney.
Now Osiris was identified with the constellation Orion, according to legit (i.e. mainstream non-Jesus Mythicist) scholars…but Jesus was NOT.
And remember; the Bible doesn’t say how many wise men visited Christ; it only mentions 3 gifts (If I give you five gifts, does that mean
And remember; the Bible doesn’t say how many wise men visited Christ; it only mentions 3 gifts (If I give you five gifts, does that mean
that I have 4 clones of myself running around?).
Osiris did miracles involving bread and wine?
No, Osiris taught mankind how to make bread and wine. FAR different from Jesus turning water into wine and later miraculously multiplying bread loaves (and fish) to feed a multitude.
Osiris did miracles involving bread and wine?
No, Osiris taught mankind how to make bread and wine. FAR different from Jesus turning water into wine and later miraculously multiplying bread loaves (and fish) to feed a multitude.
Miracle worker?
So were all other gods in religions.
Big deal.
Had disciples?
Not unless you count mankind as a whole, whom he taught how to make bread and wine.
Traveled and evangelized?
No, he traveled and spread civilization. Jesus traveled and spread…the teaching of
So were all other gods in religions.
Big deal.
Had disciples?
Not unless you count mankind as a whole, whom he taught how to make bread and wine.
Traveled and evangelized?
No, he traveled and spread civilization. Jesus traveled and spread…the teaching of
salvation.
His flesh symbolically eaten in a Lord’s Supper?
Nope, pure fiction.
23rd psalm copied from Egyptian texts that call Osiris “The Good Shepherd”?
Also pure fiction.
His flesh symbolically eaten in a Lord’s Supper?
Nope, pure fiction.
23rd psalm copied from Egyptian texts that call Osiris “The Good Shepherd”?
Also pure fiction.
The reason why Jesus Mythicists came up with this stupidity is that at times Osiris (and other gods, as well as Pharaohs) are depicted as holding a shepherd’s hook. This is called the crook (heka), and is symbolic of kingship, not of being a shepherd. Though it was
probably derived from a shepherd’s staff or crosier, this is not known for certain. The god who started out this peculiar fashion sense was Andjety, a god of the ancient Egyptian town Djedu. Despite being a local god, he had a connection with the concept of kingship, and was
eventually absorbed into Osiris, the two becoming one god. Thus, where Osiris got the crook. Pharaohs were at times called “Good Shepherd”, but this was a general term for being a good king or a good ruler. Course, Osiris would have no doubt been considered a “good shepherd” of
the dead (even though Osiris is not called as such in ancient Egyptian literature).
However…David was considered a shepherd of God’s people (Psalm 78:70-71), and he was considered a good, faithful king, a man after God’s own heart (1 Sam 13:14, 22). King David wasn’t perfect,
However…David was considered a shepherd of God’s people (Psalm 78:70-71), and he was considered a good, faithful king, a man after God’s own heart (1 Sam 13:14, 22). King David wasn’t perfect,
but he was nevertheless the greatest king the Old Testament Israelites ever had.
Moses and Joshua were likewise both likened to shepherds (Numbers 27:12-23), and they were likewise righteous rulers of the Israelites.
I think it’s safe to say that David, Moses and Joshua (as well
Moses and Joshua were likewise both likened to shepherds (Numbers 27:12-23), and they were likewise righteous rulers of the Israelites.
I think it’s safe to say that David, Moses and Joshua (as well
as other righteous leaders of the Israelites who were “Shepherds” or leaders for their people; Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Solomon, Hezekiah, etc) would have likewise been thought of as “Good Shepherds.”
See what happens when you ignore Christianity’s Jewish roots?
See what happens when you ignore Christianity’s Jewish roots?
See what happens when you ignore the historical and cultural background of the Jewish people?
So much for this comparison.
So much for this comparison.
Lord’s prayer based on a prayer to Osiris?
Fiction.
If Jesus Mythicists bring up the book of the dead, saying that the prayer to Osiris that was the basis for the Lord’s prayer is in it, demand from them the chapter (or Plate, as they are called in the Egyptian Book of the Dead)
Fiction.
If Jesus Mythicists bring up the book of the dead, saying that the prayer to Osiris that was the basis for the Lord’s prayer is in it, demand from them the chapter (or Plate, as they are called in the Egyptian Book of the Dead)
it is found in, and which version of the Egyptian Book of the Dead that they are talking about (No two copies are identical). This is the same trick that Bill Maher pulled off in “Religulous”, stating a bunch of whoppers about Horus being so similar to Jesus, and then saying all
this information was found in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
Without using specifics.
The intellectual equivalent of a snake oil sales pitch in action, folks.
Without using specifics.
The intellectual equivalent of a snake oil sales pitch in action, folks.
Baptized?
The reason why Jesus Mythicists make this claim is because…After Osiris was nailed into a coffin, they were together chucked into the Nile.
The reason why Jesus Mythicists make this claim is because…After Osiris was nailed into a coffin, they were together chucked into the Nile.
I guess I was baptized every time someone shoved me into a pool…
Crucified?
Not even close.
In one account, Osiris’ brother Seth tricked him into getting inside a coffin. Seth nailed the lid down and chunked the coffin into the Nile, where Osiris died. In another version, Seth turned himself into a crocodile and killed him. In another,
Not even close.
In one account, Osiris’ brother Seth tricked him into getting inside a coffin. Seth nailed the lid down and chunked the coffin into the Nile, where Osiris died. In another version, Seth turned himself into a crocodile and killed him. In another,
Seth turned into a bull and trampled Osiris.
Not one of these are bonafide crucifixions.
Jesus Mythicists may protest, saying that the first method of Osiris’ murder involved nails and wood (i.e. coffin), so that has to be a big parallel, right?
Not one of these are bonafide crucifixions.
Jesus Mythicists may protest, saying that the first method of Osiris’ murder involved nails and wood (i.e. coffin), so that has to be a big parallel, right?
Sell it to the Airforce, Jesus Mythicists.
Your pitiful excuse for an objection is very much overruled.
Your pitiful excuse for an objection is very much overruled.
Resurrected?
Osiris was resurrected…but unlike Christ, he didn’t do so with his own power.
You see, Isis resurrected him.
Osiris, the “god of resurrection” …needed wifey to resurrect him.
Osiris was resurrected…but unlike Christ, he didn’t do so with his own power.
You see, Isis resurrected him.
Osiris, the “god of resurrection” …needed wifey to resurrect him.
This is the equivalent of Poseidon needing his wife Amphitrite to control the seas (which of course he didn’t; Poseidon in Greek Myth had total control over the sea).
Sounds…pretty humiliating, doesn’t it?
Sounds…pretty humiliating, doesn’t it?
This makes Osiris’ resurrection more like those of the Biblical Lazarus (John 11:38-44) and other resurrections in the Bible (2 Kings 4:18-37, Matthew 9:18-26, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, etc) than that of Christ, who resurrected himself!
Thus, Christ’s resurrection is unique.
Thus, Christ’s resurrection is unique.
Jesus needed no aid in resurrection; he rose from the grave using his own power.
Osiris needed help to return to the land of the living.
Jesus would have considered him a wimp.
Sources:
Osiris needed help to return to the land of the living.
Jesus would have considered him a wimp.
Sources:
“The Way to Eternity” by Fergus Fleming, Alan Lothian, and Dr. Joan Fletcher (Consultant), 24-25, 51, 55-56, 58
“The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology” by Arthur Cotterell and Rachel Storm, 307
“The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Mythology” by Arthur Cotterell and Rachel Storm, 307
(The video on Tammuz has bearing on this article, and its also very good)
“Ancient Egypt” by Philip Steele, 12
books.google.com/books?id=cszxV…
“The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus” by Gary R. Habermas and Michael R. Licona, page 91, 296
“Man, Myth Messiah” by Rice Broocks, 137-138.
“Ancient Egypt” by Philip Steele, 12
books.google.com/books?id=cszxV…
“The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus” by Gary R. Habermas and Michael R. Licona, page 91, 296
“Man, Myth Messiah” by Rice Broocks, 137-138.
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