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LET’S TALK TURKEY (Or The Country That Shall Not Be Named)
We talk about Russia...a lot.
Even though there’s no there there with Russia and the Trump campaign.
LET’S TALK TURKEY (Or The Country That Shall Not Be Named)
We talk about Russia...a lot.
Even though there’s no there there with Russia and the Trump campaign.
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How do we know that?
Because Jon Solomon reported that Strzok texted Lisa Page “There’s no big there there.”
thehill.com/hilltv/rising/…
How do we know that?
Because Jon Solomon reported that Strzok texted Lisa Page “There’s no big there there.”
thehill.com/hilltv/rising/…
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Solomon has great sources, but every source is motivated to craft his own narrative. That’s likely the reason the source is talking in the first place. It’s up to us to properly understand the meaning of the info in a larger context.
Solomon has great sources, but every source is motivated to craft his own narrative. That’s likely the reason the source is talking in the first place. It’s up to us to properly understand the meaning of the info in a larger context.
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With that in mind, let’s go back to Solomon’s article and notice how he constructs his sentence.
There’s no big there there about RUSSIA.
But what about other countries?
With that in mind, let’s go back to Solomon’s article and notice how he constructs his sentence.
There’s no big there there about RUSSIA.
But what about other countries?
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After the inauguration, Strzok texted Page his displeasure over his lack of involvement in Jen’s investigation.
After the inauguration, Strzok texted Page his displeasure over his lack of involvement in Jen’s investigation.
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We later learn that Jen was in charge of the investigation of “this country.”
A country that is not Russia.
We later learn that Jen was in charge of the investigation of “this country.”
A country that is not Russia.
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In Mike Flynn’s statement of offense, he is accused of giving false statements to the FBI concerning two countries: Russia and Turkey.
In the case of Turkey, He is accused of making “materially false statements and omissions” in his FARA filings.
In Mike Flynn’s statement of offense, he is accused of giving false statements to the FBI concerning two countries: Russia and Turkey.
In the case of Turkey, He is accused of making “materially false statements and omissions” in his FARA filings.
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Strzok interviewed Flynn about his interactions with representatives of the Russian government. Not Turkish.
Turkey was “Jens side of the house.” Apparently there was no interview. Flynn was charged based on his FARA filings.
Strzok interviewed Flynn about his interactions with representatives of the Russian government. Not Turkish.
Turkey was “Jens side of the house.” Apparently there was no interview. Flynn was charged based on his FARA filings.
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Let’s look at some more evidence that “this country” is Turkey.
Back in the summer of 2015, Michael Werz (Center for American Progress) sent John Podesta an email warning him that the “Erdogan faction” was trying to buy influence in US political campaigns.
Let’s look at some more evidence that “this country” is Turkey.
Back in the summer of 2015, Michael Werz (Center for American Progress) sent John Podesta an email warning him that the “Erdogan faction” was trying to buy influence in US political campaigns.
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I use the word “influence” because it’s the word Glenn Simpson used in his congressional testimony describing Flynn’s Turkish connections.
I use the word “influence” because it’s the word Glenn Simpson used in his congressional testimony describing Flynn’s Turkish connections.
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Strzok informed Page that he was in charge of the “influence stuff” before Jen came on board.
Strzok informed Page that he was in charge of the “influence stuff” before Jen came on board.
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On August 9, 2016, Flynn Intel group signed a contract with a Dutch company, owned by Ekin Alpetkin, the chairman of the Turkish-American Business Council.
Alpetkin paid over $500,000 to Flynn’s firm from August to November 2016.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
On August 9, 2016, Flynn Intel group signed a contract with a Dutch company, owned by Ekin Alpetkin, the chairman of the Turkish-American Business Council.
Alpetkin paid over $500,000 to Flynn’s firm from August to November 2016.
bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
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Nick Weil points out that on August 11, 2016, Strozk texts Lisa Page asking for possible codenames for an investigation.
Nick Weil points out that on August 11, 2016, Strozk texts Lisa Page asking for possible codenames for an investigation.
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Page suggested the name “Latitude” because it’s loosely military.
(note that the date is prior to Jen coming on board.)
Page suggested the name “Latitude” because it’s loosely military.
(note that the date is prior to Jen coming on board.)
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(Coincidently, on August 10, 2016, Christopher Steele filed a memo that mentions Mike Flynn.)
(Coincidently, on August 10, 2016, Christopher Steele filed a memo that mentions Mike Flynn.)
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On February 6, 2017, Page texted Strzok that he should be at a meeting to discuss policy on “this country.”
On February 6, 2017, Page texted Strzok that he should be at a meeting to discuss policy on “this country.”
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In a later text from the same day, Strzok expressed his dismay that Jen briefed “that general.”
In a later text from the same day, Strzok expressed his dismay that Jen briefed “that general.”
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The next day (Feb 7, 2017) President Trump spoke to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan by phone.
conservativedailynews.com/2017/02/presid…
The next day (Feb 7, 2017) President Trump spoke to Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan by phone.
conservativedailynews.com/2017/02/presid…
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On February 9, 2017, Jim Comey noted seeing Bill Preistap and Jen Boone at the White House.
I assume “Mike” is Mike Flynn.
Flynn resigned on Feb 13.
On February 9, 2017, Jim Comey noted seeing Bill Preistap and Jen Boone at the White House.
I assume “Mike” is Mike Flynn.
Flynn resigned on Feb 13.
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FBI Counterintelligence Division organization (post-inauguration)
FBI Counterintelligence Division organization (post-inauguration)
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This split between the Russia and Turkey investigations continued, I believe, after the appointment of Robert Mueller as Special Counsel.
Discussed here:
This split between the Russia and Turkey investigations continued, I believe, after the appointment of Robert Mueller as Special Counsel.
Discussed here:
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Many on MAGA twitter have called the allegations against Flynn related to Turkey, “bogus”.
But have they forgotten who broke the story of Flynn’s connection to Turkey?
It was Chuck Ross of the Daily Caller.
dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/tru…
Many on MAGA twitter have called the allegations against Flynn related to Turkey, “bogus”.
But have they forgotten who broke the story of Flynn’s connection to Turkey?
It was Chuck Ross of the Daily Caller.
dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/tru…
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I’m not sure how they reconcile the opinion that Ross is invaluable source of information when it comes to Stefan Harper and the Russian investigation and a purveyor of bogus stories on Mike Flynn and the Turkish investigation.
I’m not sure how they reconcile the opinion that Ross is invaluable source of information when it comes to Stefan Harper and the Russian investigation and a purveyor of bogus stories on Mike Flynn and the Turkish investigation.
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I had not followed Ross' original reporting on Flynn and Turkey.
Looking at his old tweets, I was surprised at the level of Ross' distrust of Flynn.
I had not followed Ross' original reporting on Flynn and Turkey.
Looking at his old tweets, I was surprised at the level of Ross' distrust of Flynn.
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Based on his plea agreement, Flynn will not face charges from the special counsel for giving misleading statements.
He could still face charges in another federal jurisdiction, however.
What happened to the Turkey angle?
Based on his plea agreement, Flynn will not face charges from the special counsel for giving misleading statements.
He could still face charges in another federal jurisdiction, however.
What happened to the Turkey angle?
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Any discussion of Spygate and the Mueller investigation invariably comes back to Russia.
No one wants to talk Turkey.
Any discussion of Spygate and the Mueller investigation invariably comes back to Russia.
No one wants to talk Turkey.
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On the surface, it would seem that the Turkish investigation was taken away from Strzok and buried.
On the surface, it would seem that the Turkish investigation was taken away from Strzok and buried.
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Could it be as simple as Turkey is an important NATO ally and Russia isn’t?
And since most Trump supporters admire Mike Flynn, we don’t bring it either?
Hence we’re all prisoners of the Russia Box.
Could it be as simple as Turkey is an important NATO ally and Russia isn’t?
And since most Trump supporters admire Mike Flynn, we don’t bring it either?
Hence we’re all prisoners of the Russia Box.
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Before anyone go @ Chuck Ross over his views on Mike Flynn, remember what Vice President Mike Pence said about Flynn after the revelation of Turkish connection.
thehill.com/homenews/admin…
Before anyone go @ Chuck Ross over his views on Mike Flynn, remember what Vice President Mike Pence said about Flynn after the revelation of Turkish connection.
thehill.com/homenews/admin…
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There are some genuine discrepancies between Flynn, Ross and Pence.
For those who hold all 3 men in esteem they may be inclined to avoid talking Turkey because it’s mentally uncomfortable.
There are some genuine discrepancies between Flynn, Ross and Pence.
For those who hold all 3 men in esteem they may be inclined to avoid talking Turkey because it’s mentally uncomfortable.
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Credit to knowitall for being one the few conservatives (sorry, “common sense republicans”) willing to address the conflicting statements between Flynn and Pence.
Credit to knowitall for being one the few conservatives (sorry, “common sense republicans”) willing to address the conflicting statements between Flynn and Pence.
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I’m OK with acknowledging that Ross’ reporting is correct (and you should read it, if you haven’t).
At the same time, I’ve written elsewhere how I see Flynn as a “good soldier.”
I’m willing to wait to hear him speak before I change my opinion.
I’m OK with acknowledging that Ross’ reporting is correct (and you should read it, if you haven’t).
At the same time, I’ve written elsewhere how I see Flynn as a “good soldier.”
I’m willing to wait to hear him speak before I change my opinion.
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Most of all I hope more people are willing to talk Turkey because I can’t bare any more speculation about what PapaD told Alexander Downer.
It’s past time we broke out of the Russia Box.
Most of all I hope more people are willing to talk Turkey because I can’t bare any more speculation about what PapaD told Alexander Downer.
It’s past time we broke out of the Russia Box.
