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Alex Andreou
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This voice is not some extreme ERG Brexiter putting their case for hard Brexit forward. It is @BBCr4today presenting it as if it is the gospel truth, while interviewing the Irish Minister for Europe. Jon Humphrys’s outrageous editorialising is an embarrassment to @BBCNews. 1/2
The punchline: He suggests that if Ireland wants to respect its peace treaty obligations, *Ireland* should exit the EU; that it should subjugate to a foreign, dodgy, narrow, advisory referendum. And quotes figures in support, wrong by a factor of four. Shame on you @BBCNews. 2/2
I’m so tired of this @BBCr4today. This isn’t balance. This is about your anchor getting facts wrong. You used to be a flagship news programme. I could go down to my local and listen to some random uninformed pub bore’s monologues. Why is my license paying for this utter drivel?
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Illuminating mistake by @ChristianFraser. He suggests, if the EU refuse to renegotiate deal, they’ll show they’re “not an honest broker”. But they’re not “brokers”. They represent the remaining EU27. They’re not there to deliver unicorns just because the UK reeeeally wants them.
That’s been part of the problem all along. The view of the EU as “the adult in the room” who has to give the UK whatever it wants every time it threatens, like a toddler, to hold its breath. They’re not. They’re the opponent. We chose to make them the opponent. @ChristianFraser
It is time to stop treating the EU as the designated driver of our drunken night out and sober up.
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If people don’t get that opposing a unilateral discriminatory penalty is not about the AMOUNT, their attachment to decency and principles is pretty flimsy. They might be the sort of people who lie in public, betray a friend for a scoop and resent the disabled. @IsabelOakeshott
I wonder if @isabeloakeshott would be quite so sanguine if a security guard rocked up to her at the cinema, ten minutes before the end of the film, and made her pay an additional tenner just for being English, because it was only a tenner and the film was good.
I wager not.
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Alex Andreou
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Interesting @bbctbq debate on returning antiquities to their home. Many good points made, but amazed nobody drove home the clear distinction between objects made to be transportable and displayed like a painting and parts of a monument like the Parthenon marbles. @NickyAACampbell
That’s not to say there’s no case for returning important cultural artefacts anyway, but the debate “to whom do they belong”, is simply unsustainable when a country is refusing to return parts of a building with a definitive location. @NickyAACampbell
Some “expert” on it was saying: “Yes, but do those marbles belong to Greece? Is modern Greece the same as the ancient city state of Athens?” But that’s cynical sophistry. The point is they belong TO THE PARTHENON and that has an undeniable geographical location. @NickyAACampbell
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