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Thread of Brexit Arguments and Responses :
"The EU need us more than we need them"
1️⃣ NO-DEAL Brexit makes trade with our 27 closest markets more expensive.
For the EU 27, it's just ONE of theirs.
2️⃣I buy more from asda than it buys from me. But it won't compromise its relationship with 27M other customers to please me.
1️⃣ NO-DEAL Brexit makes trade with our 27 closest markets more expensive.
For the EU 27, it's just ONE of theirs.
2️⃣I buy more from asda than it buys from me. But it won't compromise its relationship with 27M other customers to please me.
"We already voted"
Ultimately Brexit creates a new EU-UK relationship. Did we know what it would be in 2016? Would all Brexit voters prefer the deal we negotiated to just staying? No?
Ending our current EU-UK relationship for a specific new one needs informed democratic consent.
Ultimately Brexit creates a new EU-UK relationship. Did we know what it would be in 2016? Would all Brexit voters prefer the deal we negotiated to just staying? No?
Ending our current EU-UK relationship for a specific new one needs informed democratic consent.
"Let's have a referendum between deal & no-deal"
48% didn't want either of those.
So a deal vs no-deal choice would just be about finding out which relationship *most* of the 52% actually wanted to have with the EU.
Even if 90% of the 52% want no-deal, that's still less than 48%.
48% didn't want either of those.
So a deal vs no-deal choice would just be about finding out which relationship *most* of the 52% actually wanted to have with the EU.
Even if 90% of the 52% want no-deal, that's still less than 48%.
"We must implement the 1st referendum before we do a 2nd"
1️⃣If you agree to pay for my meal before seeing (negotiating) the bill, I won't take the cash from your account & THEN ask".
2️⃣We've spent more time implementing the referendum than we spent implementing the 2015 election.
1️⃣If you agree to pay for my meal before seeing (negotiating) the bill, I won't take the cash from your account & THEN ask".
2️⃣We've spent more time implementing the referendum than we spent implementing the 2015 election.
"We voted to leave without Single Market access or a deal because Remain told us that would happen"
SO DISHONEST!
Not having a deal / single market access is objectively worse. You called Remain negativity project fear, siding with Leave who promised BOTH.
SO DISHONEST!
Not having a deal / single market access is objectively worse. You called Remain negativity project fear, siding with Leave who promised BOTH.
"The EU is mistreating us"
Your spouse of 40years tells you they're divorcing you. They then stay in your house for 3yrs telling their kids you're the enemy, calling yours a burden, calling you Nazis/Soviets/Mafia and rejecting each divorce deal you offer.
Who's mistreating whom?
Your spouse of 40years tells you they're divorcing you. They then stay in your house for 3yrs telling their kids you're the enemy, calling yours a burden, calling you Nazis/Soviets/Mafia and rejecting each divorce deal you offer.
Who's mistreating whom?
"I didn't vote for a deal. I just voted to leave."
Do you think the UK government will allow the UK to permanently have no trade deal at all with its closest markets? Ending our current relationship with the EU simply triggers a new one, WITH ZERO GUARANTEE WE'LL PREFER IT!
Do you think the UK government will allow the UK to permanently have no trade deal at all with its closest markets? Ending our current relationship with the EU simply triggers a new one, WITH ZERO GUARANTEE WE'LL PREFER IT!
"No-Deal puts us in a stronger negotiating position".
It wasn't the EU 27 who chose to avoid no-deal in March. It was us.
If we couldn't strong-arm them before...When we lose market access to our 27 closest countries and they lose access to 1, that won't tip things in our favour!
It wasn't the EU 27 who chose to avoid no-deal in March. It was us.
If we couldn't strong-arm them before...When we lose market access to our 27 closest countries and they lose access to 1, that won't tip things in our favour!
"Leave means Leave"
That implies Brexit is simple, and that we just need to do what it said on the ballot paper: Leave the EU.
But most Brexit voters hate the Withdrawal agreement, proving that the question on the 2016 ballot paper was too vague to provide a mandate for anything.
That implies Brexit is simple, and that we just need to do what it said on the ballot paper: Leave the EU.
But most Brexit voters hate the Withdrawal agreement, proving that the question on the 2016 ballot paper was too vague to provide a mandate for anything.
"The EU wants to be a superstate with an EU Army"
Stop looking at the EU through UK constitutional eyes. We don't have one; the EU does. Just because an EU politician says something doesn't mean the EU can force it on us.
e.g Defence policy needs unanimity
Stop looking at the EU through UK constitutional eyes. We don't have one; the EU does. Just because an EU politician says something doesn't mean the EU can force it on us.
e.g Defence policy needs unanimity
"When the Lisbon Treaty comes into effect in 2022, the EU will be a federal superstate"
The Lisbon Treaty came into effect in 2009.
I won't convince you with a bunch of Guardian articles; so I'm going to show you the EU Treaties themselves. LOOK (THREAD):
The Lisbon Treaty came into effect in 2009.
I won't convince you with a bunch of Guardian articles; so I'm going to show you the EU Treaties themselves. LOOK (THREAD):
"EU is a dictatorship"
How EU law is made:
1⃣General direction set by heads of gov't twice every 6mths
2⃣Gov-appointed Commissioners present law proposals to directly elected EU Parliament & National ministers
3⃣Parliament & Ministers amend/approve/reject
How EU law is made:
1⃣General direction set by heads of gov't twice every 6mths
2⃣Gov-appointed Commissioners present law proposals to directly elected EU Parliament & National ministers
3⃣Parliament & Ministers amend/approve/reject
"You just want to stop Brexit"
That implies it's not OK to want that. Does democracy require the losers to adopt the winners' ideology? Did Labour start campaigning for austerity in 2017? No! They accepted the result but sought an election ASAP. And elections only last 5 years!
That implies it's not OK to want that. Does democracy require the losers to adopt the winners' ideology? Did Labour start campaigning for austerity in 2017? No! They accepted the result but sought an election ASAP. And elections only last 5 years!
"Let's just Brexit so People & Government can move on to other things".
Have we negotiated the trade deal yet? No? So leaving is only the start. It'll be the same arguments on TV with government resources tied up in Brexit, just with no way out for 7-10yrs
Have we negotiated the trade deal yet? No? So leaving is only the start. It'll be the same arguments on TV with government resources tied up in Brexit, just with no way out for 7-10yrs
"More constituencies voted Leave"
There's a bigger constitutional distinction between Scotland & England than between constituencies. So the fact that Scotland/N.Ireland were 62%/56% Remain whereas England/Wales were only 53% Leave beats the "more-Leave-constituencies" argument.
There's a bigger constitutional distinction between Scotland & England than between constituencies. So the fact that Scotland/N.Ireland were 62%/56% Remain whereas England/Wales were only 53% Leave beats the "more-Leave-constituencies" argument.
