“Is it in individual files or in a master database?” - “it’s in the master database”
He imagines that the Ministry of Interior has information relating to the procurement buy doesn’t know if they have provided info to the Court
“You think it’s appropriate to analogise personal data to oil?” - “yes”
Taken to the report itself, he says that there was a consultant who was not related to the government or UNICEF. There is no one else.
“Is government able to function given that there is an identification crisis?” - “yes with challenges”
He confirms the crisis goes back to 1989
He agrees that rule of law means that the law is supreme over acts of government and private parties
He confirms that therefore the law currently allows #GOK to collect DNA and GPS info
"So was my understanding wrong from Kibicho's evidence that if a police officer stops you, he will be able to check your card details" - "yes that's possible"
"The data you are collecting; whose is it?" - "The citizen's data" - "do you want the citizens to believe that what you are saying is the gospel truth without any information on the security of the system?"
JO confirms that he would not currently know if the NIIMS data was unlawfully used