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When histories of the Trump era are someday written, there will be some interesting chapters -- interesting to me, at least -- on how libertarians (aka "classical liberals") divided in their reactions to Trump.
I don't claim to be an expert on this, but I have a general sense that the classical liberal world is divided between two camps: What you might call (1) The #NeverTrump no-way-no-how faction, and (2) The judges-and-deregulation we-can-work-with-him-for-common-ends faction.
If my sense of that division is accurate, there's interesting work to be done on why different people ended up in which camp. Or at least interesting to me; as always, your mileage may vary.
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Thread: How to React to Breathless Legacy Media Reports

1. I like many people get spun up by a lot of “breaking news.” It is a natural emotional reaction for those paying close attention to current events.
2. But then that’s PRECISELY what the political agitators behind fake news stories want. They wish to obfuscate the truth, protect the Deep State, and divide and dispirit their opposition.
3. Facts are hard to come by these days, given the media's propensity to go with "unnamed sources" who have obvious political agendas. We have witnessed this many times since 8 Nov 16.
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GOP thought leader Erick Erickson wants the US to support the next wave of Pinochet dictators.

Inadvertently, he highlights the moral duty to aid refugees fleeing violence the US ignited.

Pinochet was one of many CIA backed fascists, who tortured or murdered 30,000 Chileans.
The CIA backed a Pinochet lead Chilean coup in 1973. He tortured 30,000 Chileans, and murdered over 2,000. He threw people out of helicopters. He killed a former diplomat and 2 bystanders in a car bomb in DC.
A direct line to violence refugees flee today.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rig…
It’s important to note that Erickson is a #NeverTrump Republican. He frequents Meet the Press.

He also advocates supporting murderous fascist dictators as long as they impose free market reforms.

We need to be careful who we get into bed with.

thinkprogress.org/conservative-e…
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Have seen some comments here over the last 24 hours questioning where the starting members of @chkbal have been over the past 2+ years of Trumpism. Some of the comments are snarky, but I'm going to respond b/c I think there are some who have genuine questions, and they're fair...
As with all of @chkbal I comment only for myself, but here are a few thoughts that might help provide at least some context...
The short answer is that some of us have been vocal critics of then-candidate and now president Trump’s most extreme rhetoric and executive actions that are inconsistent with rule of law and the fair administration of justice for some time...
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Holy shit. This is the #NeverTrump/GOP operative @PodSaveAmerica commentator who the NYT just revealed secretly worked for Facebook to depict liberal critics of the company as Soros puppets. Look at what he just tweeted less than two weeks about those who do what he was doing:
1/ Here's the defense of the #NeverTrump GOP/Bush operative who got caught secretly working for Facebook to malign its critics as Soros puppets, even as he publicly denounced the "moral rot" on the Right for doing the same thing. @PodSaveAmerica, where he works, has suspended him
2/ Even if it's true some of the groups critical of FB's monopoly power received funding from Soros, so what? All groups need funding. The only reason for @Timodc to highlight this in paid service to FB is to exploit the same ugly Soros stereotypes he pretended to find so noxious
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NeverTrump’s Billionaire Leftist Benefactors (via @Julie_Kelly2) bit.ly/2RWcPec
Just hours after Jeff Sessions resigned as attorney general last Wednesday at the president’s behest, #TheResistance found its newest target for destruction: Sessions’ interim replacement, Matthew Whitaker.
Negative coverage about the acting attorney general has dominated national publications and cable news outlets. Reporters have portrayed Whitaker as a Trump lackey, a crackpot, and an “attack dog”;
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I’m not saying #Whitaker catfished Trump. But if he had done, it would be brilliant work. Both @AshaRangappa_ thread and the fact he supported @marcorubio are encouraging. A #NeverTrump guy who knows how to tickle Trump’s belly :)
PS as far as #TrumpRussia goes, @MittRomney will be voting with us, not the Trumpsters.
He didn’t just support Rubio. He worked his way through the list to @tedcruz, as I did. (rubio-kasich_cruz) and that makes him pretty #NeverTrump. Saying he wants to do TV to get nominated sounds like a conman targeting a rube
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Thread: Mid-Term Elections Post Mortem

1. These are my thoughts without having watched a single minute of television news yesterday and last night. I relied on Twitter and the web exclusively throughout Election Night.
2. First, the obvious: there was no Blue Wave or Red Wave. Democrats flipped the House and won governorships in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (among others); Republican added seats in the Senate and won high-profile governors’ races in Florida, Georgia, and Ohio.
3. The number of seats lost by Republicans in the House was statistically normal for an off-year election when a president’s party historically loses seats. For example, Republicans lost 26 seats in 1982 when Reagan was president:
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1) Post Midterm Analysis – 7 November 2018

I can't believe how wrong I was. I honestly thought - foolish me - that I'd be SO upset if we lost the House, which I clearly feared we might.
2) My own deeply qualified prediction was we'd keep it by one or two, and that losing it by so little as one would have dire consequences. I suspect, though, that beyond the obvious and so-bad control of committees and the ugliness I still do project...
3) I have close to zero negative emotion this morning. That really surprises me!

I absolutely hate losing, no kidding. I've always said, show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. But, I feel like precisely that today, a good loser. And I'm starting to unpack why.
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Everyone stop what you are doing and read this complaint. Specifically read the parts where instruction are given on how to produce messaging to different American sub groups. This is exactly the horseshoe theory we’ve been seeing and posting about. justice.gov/opa/press-rele…
1. Notice the Kremlin’s own racist assumptions and weakness when directing the messaging, but also notice the issues the got right. Ask why these were important to them and note the parallels with Mr. Trump’s own rhetoric/policies. Here’s their guidance for LGBT POC messaging.
2. Most folks who have noticed or interacted with suspected Kremlin trolls and bots will recognize the time difference issue and know when the trolls show up to work in St. Petersburg. Here is their guidance on timing.
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The complete audio of my long conversation w/ @maxboot is now posted: hughhewitt.com/max-boot-on-ne… The transcript will take a few hours to post. Important conversation w/ a very smart #NeverTrump public intellectual whom I just don’t think sees the whole picture of @realDonaldTrump.
BTW: @realdonaldtrump testimony on the U.N. remodel —delivered in 2005 and available for watching here: — was my first awareness that he had communication skills sets that are formidable. (I’ve never watched a minute of #TheApprentice.) My biggest argument
w/ @MaxBoot and other #NeverTrumpers is that @realDonaldTrump is in any way a fascist. He just isn’t. Inflating deep disagreements with his policies into a threat to the Republic isn’t responsible nor persuasive. @maxboot book is a great memoir of how he got there, but also a
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So, a point was made on @CNN earlier about the language the President uses and the language used by the bomber and the synagogue shooter. I am putting aside my #NeverTrump hat and putting on my scholar robes to say that they have a point, but so do Trump's defenders. /1
I was trained in "Sovietology," which is, in part, the analysis of political communication. We looked for patterns and words and constructions that would provide clues to how Moscow's leaders think. We were trained to notice the introduction or spread of a new term or phrase. /2
There is no doubt in my mind - none -that Sayoc and Bowers were picking up terms from the President's language and from the State-TV Fox crazy-sphere. Bowers noting "invasion" for the caravan is a tell. There are concurrences of timing and phrasing that are not accidents. /3
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SMH #NeverTrumper Rick Wilson worked to elect as he puts it "A RABID PRO-TRUMPER" in a statewide race. Who'd you work for Rick? What xenophobic, mealy mouthed Trump sycophant are you working to put in Congress on Nov 6th? Your followers deserve to know the truth. #hypocrisy
@PhilippeReines it turns out I didn't need a long memory. Do you know who he is working to elect? I think it's important for people to know. Transparency right now is crucial. 🕊️👆
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I keep saying #NeverTrumper Rick Wilson is not an ally & is working to keep the GOP in power & therefore Trump. Rick in his own words before the primaries. I'm very quietly working of a political committee for a STATEWIDE CANDIDATE WHO IS A RABID PRO-TRUMPER "on paper." Who? 1./
Link to full article
vice.com/en_us/article/…
Rick Wilson's followers deserve to know what "rabid pro-Trump" candidates Rick is working to help elect on Nov 6th and show them who he really is under his #NeverTrump veneer. #hypocrite
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Again #NeverTrump Rick Wilson fails to own up to his part in normalizing the current odious & violent rhetoric. It is not just "Trumpism uncut & unplugged." It is GOP xenophobia unleashed. Rick has spent years spewing inflammatory rhetoric like Trump's 1/
thedailybeast.com/of-course-dona…
Violent rhetoric against media was fomented & normalized by the RW before Trump. In 2010 #NeverTrumper Rick Wilson called for journalists to be "curb stomped." "To place someone's mouth on a cement curb, & stomp on their head to break out their teeth" 2/ mediamatters.org/blog/2010/09/0…
For years Rick Wilson has fomented violent Islamophobic rhetoric. "No matter what "flavor of Islam" you may practice you deserve a hole in your head?" Rick has used his platform to fuel hateful anti Muslim flames, but he has also worked to elect virulent Islamophobes to office 3/
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The latest from @guypbenson underscores how @RepKevinCramer is romping over @HeidiHeitkamp in ND: townhall.com/tipsheet/guybe… It’s a 16 point blowout and similar surges r happening 4 Rs across the country. But pause and think a while about what a blowout in ND means. @HeidiHeitkamp
is well liked. She’s losing because of her no vote on Justice Kavanaugh. It’s is dispositive issue for many, many Republicans. Sure the economy is booming and America is rebuilding its military and its deterrent abroad, but the revulsion regarding ambush of Justice Kavanaugh is
deep, wide and, crucially, motivating. “Fairness” is an essential part of American elelctorate and the Ds are so far from Harry Truman’s “fair deal” and fair process as to repel voters. Go review Truman’s 21 Points: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Deal Note any identity politics, grievance
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I hope my many fellow Trump supporters won't get too mad at me, but I part tactical ways with our President over such things as mocking a woman for her "horse face." I get where he's coming from, and will not stop being one of his faithful followers.
What's more, I really do see the benefit to mockery. I'm studying Alinsky's rules, and we on the right have been far too soft-handed in accepting the destructive agenda of the left. We should mock socialism.
We should mock #NeverTrump Republicans for their wrong-headedness and readiness to join the other side in opposing the #MAGA mandate. Mockery is powerful and it is NOT beneath us to employ it, rather, it is a skill we must master.
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I agree #NeverTrump Republicans who haven’t left the @GOP have no voice in our dialogue about what we envision for the country.

I do not agree this same position applies to Independent voters, who we should welcome and convince persuasively that we are worthy of their vote.
By “convince persuasively that we are worthy of their vote,” I mean demonstrate to them why liberal policies are best for the American people. We should NEVER compromise our positions in an effort to cater to a conservative demographic.
This convincing takes patience and respect. The dysfunctional attacks upon pundits and point persons of the #NeverTrump movement, while cathartic and justified, are counterproductive and serve to alienate Independent voters, who we actually can win over in real life.
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The TRUMP campaign signed a deal with a consulting firm to market/rent Trump supporters' data. The firm gets to keep a cut. It's unclear if TRUMP, who abhors the prospect of others profiting from connections to him, is aware of the details of the deal. nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us/…
In TRUMP world, where grudges against #NeverTrump Republicans remain intense, there are grumbles that a contract to market/rent the Trump campaign's list went to a company associated with @mshields007, who urged Republicans to steer clear of Trump in 2016. nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us/…
SUMMER 2016: @mshields007 says of TRUMP: "He's not really a Republican, and he's certainly not running as a Republican."
SUMMER 2018: A company associated with @mshields007 signs a coveted contract to market the TRUMP campaign's email list to REPUBLICANS. nytimes.com/2018/10/13/us/…
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NB: W/ 3 today, that is a total of 29 federal appeals court judges nominated by @realDonaldTrump, confirmed by @SenateGOP led by @senatemajldr and @chuckgrassley. More will come in November and December. If memory serves, a circuit judge writes between 100-150 opinions per year.
That’s a minimum of approximately 3000 opinions a year written by @realDonaldTrump appeals courts judges. For the next 20 to 30 years. Say a ballpark of 75K opinions. Of course there will be more confirmations in November and December. And the Senate is looking very good as well
So @realDonaldTrump with @SenateGOP led by @senatemajldr @ChuckGrassley @LindseyGrahamSC etc on a course to resurrect Free Exercise Clause, 5th Amendment, other crucial rule of law objectives. #NeverTrump has to concede that the swing in the law backs towards the Constitution is
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THREAD 1.Soros has long been hate figure for Putinites & nationalists like Trump. #NeverTrumper Louise Mensch pushed the same antisemitic trope. Watch at 4:18 Louise on FOX. “We were lined up to join the Euro & we were bounced out of it by George Soros”
video.foxbusiness.com/v/494176194100…
2. Brexiteers like Trump repeatedly blame Soros a wealthy Jew for their problems. #NeverTrump Mensch at 1:12: “Soros--As a Greek American he should look at the disaster in Greece.” Louise knows Soros is NOT Greek but a Jewish Hungarian Holocaust survivor video.foxbusiness.com/v/484438137100…
3. 3rd time #NeverTrumper Louise Mensch takes a dig at Soros on FoxNews. At 1:18 “The pound was shorted by George Soros” Louise promulgated the Brexiteer's antisemitic myth of “the Soros web” while reinforcing it on Trump's station FoxNews here in the US.
video.foxbusiness.com/v/498293918900…
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I called this.
More of these #NeverTrump 'allies' will defect to Trump.
Rick Wilson, Molly Mckew, Liz Mair, Louise Mensch, Erick Erickson, Tom Nichols are not liberal allies. They are working to keep GOP in power & therefore Trump. They share same ideological goals. #VoteBlue
For all you people that keep posting @ me that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." This is why I say No. #NeverTrump republicans are extreme conservatives with extreme goals. They believe Trump is an "anti abortion liberal masquerading as a conservative." He's proved them wrong
#NeverTrump republicans like Rick Wilson believe that Rand Paul is a "strong voice for limited gov't & criminal justice reform." Rand Paul is against the Civil Rights act of 1964 barring discrimination. This is what Rick thinks gives him a strong voice for justice reform. #Bigots
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That Bret Stephens column is the usual mix of bad faith double standards, slippery rhetoric, and calculated omissions
But there IS something clarifying in the meant-to-be startling revelation that, in this case, Bret Stephens Approves of Trump, which is that "a man is being accused of sexual assault" is the point at which #nevertrump becomes #actuallytrump
This, however, is the most stunning rhetorical move: three women who have are testifying have become--without the benefit of "corroboration"--an accumulation of hearsay.

I struggle for an interpretation that isn't "Women can't witness without someone vouching for them"
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