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tony nog #FBPE @tony_nog
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1) On the whole "Corbyn's just following Labour policy on #Brexit", a message for his supporters

No-one's buying it

When Remainers see Corbyn delaying "calls for a GE" we see a confirmed brexiter running the clock down

When the public hear Labour's 3 step policy they laugh
2) so repeating over & over "it's Labour policy, it was agreed at conference" is fine, but it won't get you any Labour converts

The public, especially Remainers, will just see #Brexit enablement
And Corbyn is well past his sell by date

And unfortunately, that's toxic for Labour
3) Corbyn will never be popular enough to win on his own terms, and will never have widespread Remain support.

So he's killing the party as well as enabling #Brexit. The longer it takes for Labour to realise this, the more damage will be done.
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1) You have a mortgage, several credit cards & a pay day loan so you go to the bank to restructure your finances

You can't get to an agreement & you can't afford the payments so you stop paying

But you still have the debt & now a busted credit score

This is no deal & the £39b
2) there's this idea that we save £39b if we #Brexit with no deal.
The obligation still exists, we've already agreed this. We're not "buying a deal" we're meeting commitments.
If we crash out & don't pay we're just sending a message, the UK is untrustworthy as well as incompetent
3) if you're the kind of person who thinks it's OK for the UK to walk away from a debt its already agreed to then you're probably the kind of person who doesn't pay his fair share of a meal, or gets his round in, or returns that borrowed drill

A bit of a shit basically
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1) There is one reason why remainers have "bashed Corbyn" and its this

Because its always been obvious that Labour represented a large & growing Remain group, and that Corbyn was pro #Brexit, working against that Remain attitude

It's not rocket science
theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
2) Corbyn "Remainers" have continously reinterpreted Corbyn's words, projected their beliefs onto him, pressed on "the long game", stated "he's just following policy", said "he hasn't the numbers" and generally gone through hoops to avoid the obvious truth - Corbyn is a brexiter
3) instead of making statements like "#FBPE is a Corbyn bashing cult" it would be more honest to recognise that Corbyn is against his party & membership on #Brexit, the biggest issue of the age, and always has been. And this is a disgrace

Defending him on this is also a disgrace
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1) the Main democratic outrage of #Brexit was the question

There's lots of talk about how a #PeoplesVote would be a democractic outrage but the reality is the major democratic disaster was the Leave/Remain referendum question

And sooner or later we're going to have to face it
2) the problem is "Leave" as an option is a blank canvas, but when examined it always, in any analysis, breaks out into at least 2 very different versions
a) a deal which prioritises the economy over sovereignty
b) a deal which does the reverse
And they are irreconcilable
3) and the entire reason for the mess that we're in now is because sufficient numbers of public figures have been too cowardly, cynical or stupid to accept this fundamental division in Leave options
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I am sick of hearing warnings about how if #Brexit is cancelled it will result in violence and therefore we should go ahead with brexit through fear of racists
A lot of this comes from the right who know their project #Brexit is falling apart but whoever now expects anything better or indeed anything good at all from them. It's when you hear it from left wingers it really angers me
People who are receptive to the idea that immigrants have taken the jobs or depressed wages or pushed up housing costs or stretched public services often have genuine grievances in employment housing or access to health and education which are ignored
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1/6
 If we are going to have a special conference with #Lab18 delegates, it needs to happen before Xmas. A thread on where we stand and why the greatest risk is we run out of time for the #Labour leadership to back a #PeoplesVote in parliament ... amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/…
2/6 @Remain_Labour has been calling for the party to campaign to #Remain since Dec 2017. In parallel we have engaged with and respected party policy.
Policy agreed at #Lab18 is about to expire. Once May's #Brexit deal is voted down, we are bound to call for an immediate election
3/6 An immediate election is the key phrase. If May survives a vote of confidence and there is no election, #Labour policy (as agreed at #Lab18) must shift. Let's assume:
- Commons vote on 11th Dec
- Confidence vote on 12th Dec
On 13th Dec, Jeremy Corbyn must set out his policy
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I am still a bit bleary eyed after the #Brexit compositing meeting at #Lab18 last night, but it's vital that we establish what really happened. As you read this, a reminder that I was in the room as a delegate and John McDonnell was not.
Firstly, the leadership did make concessions. After four hours it was clear that the original text put forward by Keir's team would not satisfy the room, especially all the grassroots supporters of a #PeoplesVote. Thanks to the case we made, a new text was proposed at 11ish.
The second text was a step forward and formed the basis of the final motion. However, we were able to secure further concessions and move Labour policy on #Brexit firmly in the right direction.
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1. The Twitter remain movement really doesn't have any self awareness. Even filtering out the snobs, bigots and crazies, they still haven't grasped #Brexit at all. (thread)
2. For all that they have shown an impressive ability to build self-referential echo chambers, mobilising enormous Twitter followings, having spend millions in the process, if the polls are anything to go by they haven't actually achieved anything.
3. The reason for this being that they have made no attempt to understand Brexit voters. If they had they would understand why their activities have proven entirely futile. They are really barking up the wrong tree.
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Let's do a little thought experiment in light of this tweet from @robfordmancs:


This builds on my earlier thread:


1/8
Prerequisites for this:
- someone ousts May in a Tory leadership election in Sept/Oct
- Govt majority lost, meaning a new GE in Oct/Nov 2018
(both of these are of course open to question - but bear with me!)

2/8
How do the Tories and Labour approach #Brexit in such a General Election campaign?

One presumes that the Tories (with 75% of their membership pro-Brexit) aim for a hard Brexit, something akin to the Chequers deal (or harder). They'd NOT want a #peoplesvote

3/8
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1. So with #Brexit, we now have a provisional whole UK political agreement that we will have regulatory alignment with a view to maintaining free movement of goods. The future trade agreement will have to respect those conditions.
2. That is a long winded way of say that so far as goods are concerned, we are staying in the single market. That though does not take into account services, air travel and the many other areas covered by the EEA agreement. That is still for negotiation.
3. When it comes down to that, it is likely that the UK will wish to preserve as much access to the EU aviation market as possible with the same or similar rights to the EEA. We have, as yet, no concrete position on what the UK will ask for in terms of services.
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