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tony nog #FBPE
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This #Brexit chaos is the fault of literally everyone other than the brexiters like Lord Digby "not a single job lost" Jones who promised Brexit would be easy....

There was no plan, by design & as a matter of policy from Brexit leaders, in order to get the widest support
I mean how, seriously, how does anyone pivot from "yes, #Brexit will be easy and painless" to "it's everyone else's fault that Brexit is hard and painful" and have any sense of integrity or honour?

IF we've been bullied (and we haven't by the way, it's the argument of a 5 year old) it's because people like Digby Jones put us in a weakened position by saying we held all the cards when we clearly didnt

These people have no shame, it's unbelievable

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tony nog #FBPE
@tony_nog
We know why

People can be stupid, stubborn and malleable, can be easily bored with detail & complexity and be susceptible to populists & easy answers

It's happened before in history, it will happen again

What do you suggest we do about it?
Your position has become "people voted for this therefore we must now accept it"

Therefore any majority vote, on any premise (hanging, expulsion of minorities, sterilisation of the homeless) must be accepted?

What a ridiculous argument

#Brexit is wrong & misguided
It was wrong when 52% voted for it, it would still be wrong if 92% voted for it.

People with adult belief systems fight for what they believe to be right, not what is popular
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tony nog #FBPE
@tony_nog
1) All you need to know about Corbyn's integrity is this:
He was a life long eurosceptic
Under pressure from MPs he agreed to flip to Remain to save his skin after his shock leadership win

But now that he's secured Labour he wants #Brexit & he's not letting go
2) Corbyn's principles lasted right up until his shadow cab. came to him & said "campaign for Remain or we're resigning"

His entire leadership is defined by that half hearted flip to Remain

that he took the votes of young, enthusiastic Remainers makes it all the more sickening
3) Principles & integrity is easy when you're not put under pressure

Probably the one time in Corbyn's political career when he had to choose between ego and beliefs

And he failed, miserably

When it counted he chose Ego

And we're all paying the price
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tony nog #FBPE
@tony_nog
@DPJHodges
1) Without doubt this is the most childish, petulant, ridiculous #Brexit position yet
Vote Leave promised a unicorn
Our MPs are venal cowards, I absolutely agree

But your answer is to inflict no deal on a public mostly against it? Juvenile

@DPJHodges 2) frankly, grow up
No deal #brexit is a nightmare the public either don't want or don't fully understand

Our MPs are mostly a craven shower who are avoiding reality

These are 2 distinct issues - the latter failure does not make the former disaster OK
@DPJHodges 3) by all means point out the cowardice of every MP who is not a #PeoplesVote or No deal supporter (ie most of Labour & Tory parties)

But stop throwing your toys out of the pram shouting "right give them #brexit good & hard, that'll learn 'em", it's ridiculous
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Rachel Heyburn #FBPE #WeAreTheOppositionNow
@Rachel5742
1. Worst national leadership in my lifetime forcing through the most damaging, misguided & missold policy I can remember. Ideology & vested self interest replace statesmanship, soundbites replace sound judgement & autocracy subverts democracy.
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