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Ok, a while ago I promised to donate part of my #Robodebt refund to @AusUnemployment and part to @AntiPovertyN_SA. My refund was $1,237.01. That is to say, the government unlawfully took $1,237 out of my tax return.
Here's a screenshot of my $500 donation to @AusUnemployment.
And I transferred $500 to the @AntiPovertyN_SA.
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Quite a development in the #robodebt saga: The government lost 76 cases where the AAT said the debts weren't legally enforceable, Gordon Legal says.

It never appealed – and the decisions weren't made public.… #auspol
Most of these decisions were made in 2017. We'd previously only known about five or six. By not appealing, the government ensured that a higher level of the tribunal which publishes its decisions didn't rule against it.
Alan Tudge is also named in the statement as claim. For example, he is said to have received a brief on 1 March that stated “33% of Robodebt-raised debts ‘were changed to $0 on review/reassessment’”.
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Thanks @friendlyjordies for clearing up why @AusUnemployment is trash. The #UPSCC needs to face consequences if their negligence contributed to a suicide, similar to how the #RoboDebt negligence contributed.
The deep offence I felt hearing you equate 'low serotonin' with laziness in that podcast remains. I'm now able to understand it as a deliberate ploy to get to @maximumcuddles et al. disgusting behaviour, and make #UPSCC virally try to cancel you. Thus you could unmask them.
I understand (hope) the ablist slur about mental health was bait. As someone with a psychiatric disability I'm torn as to whether I should swallow the pain @friendlyjordies words caused, or ask for him to recognise although for the 'greater good' the slur continues to hurt.
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Having an old gander at Gordon’s amended reply for the #robodebt class action - eyeing two named “robodebt is unlawful” AATs like a record collector looking at rare Japanese edition issues - oooh I don’t have those...
Some early illustrations of how formal discovery outstrips FOI as well: “an incomplete response” to their own minister? 86% hit rate on the appeals, some the media transcripts of the time will be ... different in emphasis
I’m biased as I’ve spouted it for 2 long years now but the amended claim is stronger for having section 8(f) SSA in it. Needed it there from the start. It helps counter the “duty of care would be inconsistent with the statute”. Shows first instance diligence was expected
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Top bureaucrats from Services Australia and DSS will be fronting the #robodebt Senate inquiry from 1pm. I will be live tweeting where I can. Lots of important questions, let's hope there are lots of answers too! #auspol
We're underway! I'm excited. Can't wait to count how many times we hear the public interest immunity claim invoked.
DSS secretary Kathryn Campbell is making an opening statement. She notes the program changed another of time "in response to feedback".
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First official line on the #robodebt refund cohort provided in answer to question from @senator_patrick the figures contrast a little with previous ones as they relate to debt notices (which can produce multiple debts). refund rate (averaged cohort) of issues debts is about 68%
There about 88,000 debt notices on which no money has been paid - so no refund eligibility there obviously. Around 2/3s of those will be zeroed (with hit to budget). You can see the prevalence of averaging in the SA cohort - 67% of debts with payment being refunded.
We know the average refund (not total debt value) is $1900 so at least $60 million of unlawful demands being returned to South Australians this month. Just look at that age breakdown as well- young Australians in need of that money right now
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oh look Morrison is announcing that he will be announcing “a further stage of income support” in the next two weeks while also implying that he had, at some unspecified past point in time, already announced the announcement he is announcing he will announce.
of all his hideous traits and ugly cruelties, the lying straight to camera about income support is among the worst.
it will be interesting to see if even the most devoted transmitters of Morrison messaging will broadcast his ridiculous lies about income support, from the deeply ideological income support policy settings to the timing of deeply ideologically driven changes to income support.
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If you read the papers lately… you might have seen that @PeterDutton_MP is about to be “promoted” to Defence.

The reality is @PeterDutton_MP’s being dumped from Home Affairs because he’s incompetent and made a mess of it.

@ScottMorrisonMP’s going to #DumpDutton.

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.@PeterDutton_MP should lose his job because he’s bad at it.

Plain & simple.
Over the past 5 years, 6 months & 13 days as the relevant Minister, Dutton has played the tough guy, growling & stomping his feet.  
But it’s all a mask to cover up his mistakes & mismanagement.
For the next 2 weeks, let’s catalogue Dutton’s dumb decisions, directionless department & botched border security as @ScottMorrisonMP’s prepare to #DumpDutton.

@PeterDutton_MP’s incompetence has real world impacts on Australians- their jobs, wages, security, health & even lives.
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Yeah this deserves a thread.

Slow clap for the "shadow minister for pointless derision" who is incapable of contributing anything to the discourse during a pandemic.

You notice what you never hear from these privileged gibbons in our state's opposition? A sceric of concern for the actual residents who are living a nightmare, trapped with a fatal virus while police are enforcing a lockdown.

These residents did not fly in from Aspen on a private jet and ignore the quarantine restrictions. More likely these are the ones who missed out on federal support because our PM "stuffed up" when he overlooked casual workers, universities and the arts.

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Want to do a thread on this QoN answer as it provides a little insight into the money spent on 649 staff finding averaged debts (dec-March). Whatever the figure is speaks to why robodebt is no ordinary scandal. the figure embodies incredibly worrying questions about the APS
It’s not just that they were wrong after 4 years of warnings. Just how - while litigation raged, Prof Carney called extortion, civil society warned people were lost&hurting, did they say “no we are not going to record which we used averaged data”. How was that even possible?!!
This about our public administration. Public servants talk about “evidence based” policy. Well right here: this was the ONLY evaluation data that mattered. How many debts had documents? Were people coping with centrelink’s treadmill? You have NO credible policy without knowing
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Thread: Wholeheartedly agree @vanOnselenP
But we don’t need a royal commission, we all know what went wrong, we watched it unfold. Everyone l was telling gov this was wrong & hurting ppl, they failed to act.
It was arrogance, incompetence, over reliance of bureaucrats..
& a deep prejudice held against welfare recipients, with assumption ppl without money are below them; assuming ppl would rort system, assuming gov could bully ppl & no one would fight back - it’s EXACT same behaviour & cash grab by @ato_gov_au that @Richard_D_Boyle exposed 2/7
@Richard_D_Boyle & @4corners disclosure, stopped @ato_gov_au & saved lives + prevented suicides - but Richard now faces 162 yrs jail for doing so

@JaneCaro & @vanOnselenP are right, but how could ppl hold gov to account & prevented deaths without risking same as Richard? 3/7
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remember when press gallery journos spent the election campaign saying the Morrison government has no agenda? No climate policy? That was convenient cover for the Morrison government agenda of promoting coal ahead of renewables.…
remember Turnbull, who lost his job as leader of the Liberal Party twice over climate policy, ran on a jobs n growth platform. Morrison has destroyed tens of thousands of jobs in my sector alone and is running on a jobs platform (the Liberals gave up on growth years ago).
‘existing Morrison government policies’ - which are not nothing.
The consistent construction of dangerous Morrison government climate policy settings as “no policy” is a microcosm of how the dangerous Liberal Party policy platform is presented as neutral government action.
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I'm downing tools for a moment to talk about this story about Labor's move to support a Royal Commission into #robodebt which is interesting more for what it doesn't say #auspol. /1…
The background to this is last week the two major parties got together in a rare display of bipartisanship and, putting aside their ideological differences, gagged debate in the senate until July because Pauline Hanson and friends were spamming motions as a stunt. /2
The changes to the senate standing orders do two things: 1) limit the number of motions that can be introduced by senators to one a week and 2) create a grey area where senators will struggle to get the government to produce documents and hold them to account. /3
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good morning🌞happy Sunday! Today on #Insiders are ABC Europe correspondent Bridget Brennan, who (afaik) is the first Indigenous journo to appear on the show! And from the murdoch press, Annika Smethurst and Simon Benson.
This thread is not fact-checked.
starts with a warning on images of First Nations people who have died #Insiders
as usual Speers opening spiel is a verbatim Morrison government message, on re-opening the economy. We are told the prime minister who opted to tell lies about Australia’s history “says he is not interested in the raging debate about Australia’s history”. #Insiders
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wow I just caught up with Scott Morrison apparently addressing his lies about slavery. “We have had issues in our history. We have acknowledged them. I have acknowledged them. I have been deeply invested in these issues.” He could be talking about anything.
he didn’t mean to cause offence and if he did he deeply regrets that and apologises for that, says Scott Morrison, using exactly the same words - EXACTLY - he used yesterday on #Robodebt. Which tells us how much he cares about the specifics of both slavery and Robodebt. Zero.
there is no official Commonwealth government recognition of slavery to my knowledge. He didn’t acknowledge slavery, he denied it happened. He also trotted out an excuse helpfully provided, wait for it, by a press gallery journalist.
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good morning🌞happy Sunday! Today on #Insiders are Guardian politics editor Katharine Murphy, Pat Karvelas from the ABC and David Crowe of ninefax. This thread is not fact-checked. I block snitch-taggers.
as usual, Speers opens with what Morrison and in this case also Berejiklian and Andrews (but not SA police) said about the #AboriginalLivesMatter rallies. “They were warned not to go” says Speers about activists. By politicians and health experts, he reckons. #Insiders
the montage is #BlackLivesMatter and #AboriginalLivesMatter rallies interspersed with party-of-government politicians opinions and five (I think?) Aboriginal rally attendees. Lots of Morrison saying not to go. #Insiders
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A little thread giving context to these Guardian revelations. And yes: this is the 1000 day hostage situation FOI they fought with absolute pure nonsense.… never forget the people who were here when no one cared @notmydebt (himself hates being thanked)
It is August 2015 at DHS. They have just launched the interim manual system. Staff are directed to no longer get payslips and average more. 1.5 bn of savings is on forward estimates. they on for 866547 reviews. They sit down to write the Risk Management Plan for this.
1st 12 pages reflect known internal delusion. In fairness, Interim manual is going well. It hits the 2015 target. Great savings. unlawful savings. As ANAO will point out, getting humans to average was costly tho. For 12 pages staff are positioned as an irritant key to all risks
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Without being pompous, as an academic my only angle is the law and truth. As proof of that yesterday I answered Luke’s questions about the residual pre 2015 debts. But don’t anyone dare drawing equivalence between those forgotten files and what they let loose on people in 2015
So I will take this from the start, once. And tbh I’ll go back to my everyday work. One thing we can do for the quality of public debate is shift the key date in many accounts. up front averaging: the designed, chosen unlawfulness began in April 2015. Too many OCI only articles
In April 2015, in order to generate savings, DHS ran two pilot trials. For the 1st time ever staff were directed not to gaher employers for payslips. 68% of debts were averaged. A fact that was actively celebrated in dept.
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good morning🌞happy Sunday! Today on #Insiders are Karen Middleton, Virginia Trioli and Gareth Parker. The interview is with AG/IR Minister Christian Porter. This thread is not fact-checked.
as is his habit, Speers opens by repeating, verbatim, a Morrison government announcement. He pretends that an NPC speech is actual policy work, and has accepted (and repeats) the lie that these IR suggestions are new or started last week. #Insiders
the montage busily promotes the idea that the five roundtables are not Workchoices 2.0 (they are) and pretends a Morrison announcement is something akin to actual Labor policy outcomes instead (it isn’t). #Insiders
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I have some (more) notes on #robodebt to put the scheme in context of the 2000s. But before that, it's worth looking at Terry Carney's simple and logical description on the demise of #robodebt here:…. (1)
It's also worth reading one of Carney's AAT decisions about a debt raised in 2010 in the SCRIBD pdf embedded in this article from February:… (2)
Okay. So, after the Poniatowska (2011) and Keating (2013) decisions of the HCA, avenues for enforcing debts were far more limited for the Cth. Before 2011, the Cth had utilised the Cth DPP to do the heavy lifting on collecting overpayment debts and 10% recovery fees. (3)
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In regards to my first #robodebt of $4524.63 which I paid back in full with help from a friend - I got a phonecall tonight at 6:40pm from Centrelink. Was asked for my date of birth to confirm my identity and asked me if I would like to continue with my appeal lodged in 2018.
I had a bit of trouble remembering this certain appeal because 1) it was two years ago, 2) it's one of the three appeals I have lodged over the last two years and 3) the caller gave me no context.
They said I would have to provide payslips for my appeal to move forward. Payslips from November 2015 - July 2017. I have already provided these payslips as well as bank statements. They said it was not on their records.
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If we loose the entire conference season - as looks likely - we are going to have to find alternatives. Perhaps @AcademicsLaw and @legalscholars could explore virtual conferences/workshops this year - with the advantage of inherent international collaboration
Given the theme of the @AcademicsLaw conference is the future of the legal academy, this seems particularly appropriate
I would love to have an e-workshop on twitter and the law - I know there was a US conference on this theme a few years back -i think @lawprofblawg was involved
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At #Estimates, the Dept Formerly Known As The Dept of Human Services claimed they knew nothing, simply nothing, about averaging #robodebt 1-Nov-2025 hold end dates.
We do like to be helpful, so here's a few examples…
Repayment restart date: 1-Nov-2025
Interest: $21.47
Recovery fee: $612.05
Amount paid: $2200.00

A hold means a repayment withheld.
Repayment restart date: 1-Nov-2025
Amount paid: $4047.52

A hold means a repayment withheld.
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What the actual fuck are you doing, @NDIS and @stuartrobertmp? Now we not only have to have goals for every part of our lives and send them to government but we also have to be MEASURED against them. Smart goals??? You could not make this shit up, #auspol.…
2/ And now we enter a world where not only does govt know our every move but they are going to hold us to account if we ‘fail’ to meet their impossible non disabled standards. Oh, I know you’ll say WE set the goals. You’ve never BEEN to a planning meeting, right?
3/ This is against the principles of the NDIS and we are tired of you introducing ‘trials’, declaring them ‘successful’ then implementing them by stealth. For a start, we will be contacting everyone in your trial site to tell them to put in goals around sex and masturbation.
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