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Vincent Bevins
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Man the anti-anti-russiagate discourse is absolutely wild, it's almost like the entire US media corner of this website is irretrievably insane
If I understand correctly what happened is the people who said the media over-emphasized probable russia-trump links were mostly right and are now saying ha ha I told you so and their enemies online are saying well maybe you're right but the real issue is you're a fucking dick, ?
I think it boils down to, "OK I'm not FOR Russiagate (a theory), I am just opposed to Actually Existing Anti-Russiagate as an online tendency" which all seems to be basically saying, to me, "stay away"
lol I should REALLY stay out of this but: I was almost a russia correspondent, I went to Moscow in 2017 and talked to my russian journalist friends, foreign correspondents, almost everyone was skeptical of the Putin-Trump narrative but some reported editorial pressure from the US
so I remained pretty skeptical of it all and said so to friends in person (but not online! why would I say anything online) so I guess maybe I was closer to "right" than wrong? What I don't actually get is the contours of today's fighting, seems insanely abstruse and personal
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He may have other life skills, but I think it's clear @marcorubio isn't doing a very good job as a twitter reporter
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Vincent Bevins
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Subtweet - you can say things that are true even if Maduro says them too, just like in 2003 you were not aiding and abetting Saddam if you said he didn't have weapons of mass destruction, and civil rights leaders were not repeating Soviet propaganda by saying the US was racist
I get that things surrounding Venezuela are very emotional, but I've seen otherwise sober commentators say you basically shouldn't say anything that Maduro also says, or you'll unintentionally help him. But no. It's exactly when things are very bad we need to be most thoughtful.
I mean it sounds stupid to say but it should be bad to say untrue things, whether or not Maduro also says them, and important to be able to say what you think is true or important no matter who else says it
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Vincent Bevins
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Now in Brazil - the world's first ever government run by youtube commenters
It's an important experiment for the world, let's see how it works out
For those that don't speak Portuguese - Brazil's Ministry of Education released a long, ALL CAPS statement that starts saying a journalist was wrong about changes to their website and then veers far right into a strange discussion of the KGB and Marxist-Leninist training programs
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