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Jonathan Lis
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Going on Al Jazeera at 7.10 to discuss the latest shit-storms in Brexit and why everything in politics is so dire, in case you fancy getting in the mood for Saturday night
To make up for everything being bleak and abysmal I’ve come wearing a shirt that might have been worn by Austin Powers
OK it turns out this one’s for the Arabic channel only, sorry to get you all excited, any Arabic speakers can tune in in approx 2 mins to enjoy my shirt, hope everyone else enjoys Eurovision
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Jonathan Lis
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May’s on stage. Here we go. Starts as she means to go on, telling us that she was aiming to build a better future. (By, er, destroying our children’s.)
May graciously admits that the Brexit process has been more complex than she anticipated. Nice try. Literally anyone who understood Brexit tried to tell her this for months and years, and she neither listened nor cared.
Oh god. ‘A new Brexit deal.’ ‘Nothing has changed’ would at least have been accurate.
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Jonathan Lis
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👉 More 2017 Labour voters will now switch to a Remain party than vote Labour again

👉 3x more Lab Remain defectors to Remain parties than Leave defectors to Leave parties

This is required reading. Please, Labour, start listening, stop self-destructing theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
Key finding: just 2.2m Leave voters, or one-eighth, were working-class Labour supporters. The romantic myth of a Northern/Midlands leftist uprising is just that: a romantic myth. The vast majority of Leavers were Tories. Is folklore really more important than winning an election?
There’s a horrible feeling here. It’s that somehow Labour leadership wants to focus on mythologised Northern working class because they’re more ‘heartland’ authentic: the downtrodden rising against system. Even when they actually didn’t. And that’s too grim. I hope it’s wrong.
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Jonathan Lis
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Brexit was always going to be poison for the Tory party. Deliver it and the voters punish them for making them poorer, don’t deliver it and voters punish them for the betrayal, and all so David Cameron could bring the party together
Churchill won war and lost by a landslide. So did Major after 5yrs of growth. Even if people were satisfied with Brexit they wouldn’t reward anyone for it. Voters don’t thank politicians for the good things they’ve done and blame them for the bad things they’ve done to themselves
Of course, with Brexit, it’s both something people have done to themselves and something the Tory party has inflicted on them. Now the party literally has nowhere to turn. In trying to keep itself together it may well have eradicated itself for a generation.
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THREAD: When the shit wants to get off the pot.

The centrists waking nightmare is currently the thought of actually having to endorse JC in important votes in the next few weeks, if his thus far winning strategy does result in May failing again. 1/
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Two EU sources say UK discreetly asked about extending #Brexit transition beyond Dec 31 2020. The EU said 'no'.

The UK government categorically denies this exchange ever happened. My latest.

And some brief observations. /1

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Rachel Heyburn #FBPE #WeAreTheOppositionNow
@Rachel5742
1. Worst national leadership in my lifetime forcing through the most damaging, misguided & missold policy I can remember. Ideology & vested self interest replace statesmanship, soundbites replace sound judgement & autocracy subverts democracy.
#Brexit harms us irreparably #FBPE
2. A flawed Leave campaign based on lies, deceit, disingenuity & over simplification & a #Remain one fought w/o any positivity from the Govt & no real commitment from Labour, whose leader was virtually AWOL, did no justice to #Brexit complexity & betrayed our democratic process.
3. A mere 37% of voters/26.5% of the Ppl voted leave in a legally Non-Binding test of public opinion which has been corrupted, on the basis of an illegitimate political promise & interpreted as being the irrefutable Will of the Ppl.
The 1st is insufficient to claim the latter!
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