Thread by @shayshinecastle

We're gonna have a brief discussion about scheduling the large lots/large homes matter. Here's where we left that, in April: boulderbeat.news/2019/04/25/bou…

Council wants to know if they should do Phase 1 of this. Planning Board looked at this but did not recommend staff's recommendations to do extra ADUs and/or conversions from single-family homes to duplexes. Those were council's ideas.

I guess we last looked at this in May. Apologies; here's that story: boulderbeat.news/2019/05/29/bou…

Yates wants the next council to look at this project next year, putting Phase 1 and 2 back together.

He references the neighborhood petition to punt that as well. Only 9 ADU applications in the RR and RE zones have been received.

"It's a heavy lift for not" a lot of gain, Yates says.

Nagle supports that, too. She's not here.

Carlisle: Are you talking about extra ADUs or the first ones?
Yates: First ones are what's allowed under rule changes from last year. We haven't done anything to allow extra ones yet; it was just a recommendation.

Carlisle agrees with Yates. "I think we've heard a lot from the ppl who are part of this community and these zones." Wants to chat about subcommunity planning so neighbors "can have a seat at the table."

"We should wait" since we just did looser ADU regulations before allowing a second one.

Brockett OK with that, too. He originally advocated for keeping the phases together, back this spring.

"These are citywide issues," even though it was focused in NoBo bc of the scrapes and pops. But now Frasier Meadows folks are concerned, too. "We were hoping for baby carrots, but somebody on planning board called it a nothing burger."

Morzel OK punting to next year, too. There's 9 new applications for 2,000 lots and 40 existing. Calls out neighborhood groups for "vastly" misrepresenting what the city intended to do. "I think it really got conflated."

But NoBo sub community plan will have to be redone; at the time, there was an understanding not to make changes in the large lots areas. But something needs done with them bc of all the scrape-and-replace activity.

Weaver: "It's late in the game for this council; we're going to be rushing to get it done. I think we should be more methodical than that."

Wants it brought up as part of East Boulder sub community plan, although I just read the notes that there is no housing in that area.

From the memo (discussing this later): "East Boulder’s contribution to the city’s housing stock is currently zero."

Back to large homes. Young: This project has struggled from the beginning. She's OK to push it to next year.

"The solutions seem to be responding to another problem that wasn't the original one" of limiting home sizes, since we rejected a cap earlier.

Jones: I'll say "with disappointment bc I'm not going to be around for that conversation" but it's fine to push it to next year.

"The trend of replacing modest homes with large homes is not just in north Boulder. It's a slow but insidious trend."

"I would say to the new council: This is a real issue. ... Maybe approach it more methodically than we did."

So many ways to get at it, she says: Do you look at FAR? Subdividing lots? Having an affordability component? Or sub community planning?

Morzel thanking planning staff for the work they put into this. "A lot of the basic work has been done. I hope you will move forward."

Again references misinformation that "got ppl more freaked out than they needed to be. ... It was all voluntary; there was nothing mandatory in this whole thing."

Jones: How do you steer change without inviting change that ppl aren't ready for.

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