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Jonathan Lis
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This is deeply disappointing. Not because Labour is not going to adopt a Remain position in a referendum - it will - rather because it has faced an open goal and deliberately chosen to kick the ball into the stands. For first time I think a Tory majority is the likeliest outcome.
I can see why they did it. It’s a fair compromise position. But now we’re talking about what’s actually going to win votes. Lib Dems are explicitly Remain. Tories are explicitly Leave. Labour has now pissed off Remainers & Leavers who’ll all think the party is for the other side.
The fate of the Labour Party now rests wholly on Nigel Farage. If we go beyond 31 Oct and he stands against Tories, he may split enough votes that Labour will get lucky and sneak through. But if he decides to back Johnson for a later Brexit, Labour is finished.
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Jonathan Lis
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I don’t think any of us who witnessed what happened in the House of Commons today, whether in person or on TV, will ever forget it. I think the genuine, inhuman, toxic horror of it will remain etched in my mind for the rest of my life.
This sounds shrill or hysterical. It is not. Something died tonight that will never come back. Something of our decency, our love, our care for one another, not as political opponents but as human beings, trying to do what’s best for the people we care about.
This transcends Brexit. I don’t care if you voted leave or remain. It even, in fact, transcends prorogation. This was a festival of gleeful cruelty orchestrated by a political leader so removed from humanity that he was prepared to barrack and assail the friends of a murdered MP.
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Real problem with Labour’s decision isn’t that it’s bad policy but bad politics. Why? Voters will think they’re being tricked. Lab’s admitted they’ll choose a side eventually, so for now they can tell everyone, lottery-style, ‘it could be you!’. It sounds dishonest, because it is
We know Labour will campaign for Remain. Almost everyone in the PLP and Shadow Cabinet wants to Remain, so do members, so do voters. We’re going to get there in the end. Why not just admit we’re going to get there now? Leavers are not stupid. This treats them as though they are.
What makes it even worse is Labour Leavers have either already left, or won’t ever leave. Pretending Lab might campaign to leave won’t win any of them back. Those who left over a customs union won’t return to the fold for a People’s Vote. All this does is drive away Remainers.
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I was always torn on issue of private education. I benefited from it myself (hugely), and always felt abolition would be like pulling ladder up after me. And yet point is only a tiny proportion of the population was ever going to climb that ladder. That is profoundly unfair.
There is an issue of choice. As a small-L liberal I would argue people should have right not to use state sector for education, as with health. But private schools remain the greatest agent of inequality in our society, and that needs to change.
My school instilled that most crucial of gifts: confidence. From the first day we were encouraged to take all the opportunities laid before us. We would all go to the best universities. We would all meet the right people. Even the most academically mediocre kids would thrive.
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