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OK - now starting @SDNYLIVE, hearing in Giuffre v. Dershowitz, 19-cv-3377 before Judge Preska (who sentenced UN briber Patrick Ho of CEFC China Energy). Judge Preska starts with questions on alleged sexual trafficking of Giuffre by Dershowitz,with Epstein- thread
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 After the issue of whether Dershowitz has had sex with anyone other than his wife calls outside relevance standards, Judge Preska adds "Or propriety." She calls Dershowitz' counter-claim sweeping and its forthcoming filings "Massive, no doubt."
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Now cited: the discovery in the Giuffre v. Maxwell case.
Note: Ghislaine Maxwell was given the UN press briefing room to promote her business, something Inner City Press asked the UN about before being banned from the UN.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 "In addition to Ms. Giuffre, another young woman has claimed she had sex with Mr. Dershowitz as part of the same operation."
The same operation?
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: "Lying was part of the defamation claim... I'm not sure why you're telling me this."

Using air quotes, Judge Preska refers to the "conspiracy to extort theory."

Back to earth: "We're talking the the scope of discovery here."
Yes.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Dershowitz' lawyer: "We will need to take depositions about the truth defense... And the the photograph of Prince Andrew, if we need to determine if it is a fake or not, we will need an expert."

Judge Preska: Do not spend any more on experts until we talk again.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 "Counsel has mentioned this New York Times article of yesterday, which mention conversations--"

"Happy to produce it. The entirety of the episode between Mr. Kessler and the lawyer."

Judge Preska: Does plaintiff have any recordings? Let's get going here.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: This is not going to go on forever. This is not going to be the book for my good friends the reporters to write.

Dershowitz' lawyer: Sorry to interrupt, your Honor, but we've been trying to get previous testimony about Ms. Giuffre's travel schedule
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: We're not going to disclose the transcript publicly without further discussion. I think I'd propose that your initial disclosure including the dates of travel, so you can know what we're dealing with.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Raised: Is the Maxwell deposition covered by the protective order?
Judge Preska: What else, friends? Two weeks? Let me know if you want to come in and chat. Will plaintiff be amending?

Yes. We're going to add additional allegations on defamation of the same ilk
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: Why do we need to amend to get in these statements of the same ilk, other than to get them out there?

Giuffre's lawyer: Because they are in a book. They are fresh defamatory statements.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Dershowitz' lawyer: We think she was not a child and so can't avail herself of the state statute...

Giuffre's lawyer: We are going to add a new claim about the recording.

Judge Preska: Does plaintiff have standing? I thought it was Mr. Boies who was recorded.
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: File no motion before it's time... Question: there's no additional discovery triggered by the state court claims? Delaying discovery is not wise. What else?
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Dershowitz's lawyer: I don't know how we could do the deposition of Ms. Giuffre in one day... We will serve a subpoena on Mr. Boies, about the crime-fraud exception [also came up in #OneCoin trial patreon.com/posts/32018719
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Judge Preska: I would very much like to stay in contact, the Acela is easy. What else do you want to do today?

Giuffre's lawyer introduces 3 colleagues.

And nothing more. It's over. (Except maybe Dershowitz speaking in the hall as before - thread may be updated
@sdnylive @MatthewLeeICP @FUNCA_info @FinanceWatchOrg @yashar @kylegriffin1 Update: Dershowitz *did* speak in the hallway outside Judge Preska courtroom afterward. Inner City Press asked him how long he wants for deposition of Giuffre. "As long as it takes." InnerCityPress.com story coming
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