Guest: It’s not true that they needed to beat the shit out of him-
Gavin: Yeah, it is.
The left word in the circle 權 means power. The right word 力 means strength, force.
The two words 權力 together means “authority”.
Gavin was the editor and would often write under pseudonyms.
Gavin loves lying to the press.
Guests are either like-minded or naiive targets.
So if you know of someone who should read this: please share it with them.