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Info Discussion: 2013 I stopped celebrating the December 25 holiday called Christmas. I did it as result of prayer and research, and I pass no judgement on anyone who still keeps it. We are called however to teach and learn truth, so I want to share knowledge to those who want it
Since Christmas was named and practiced by the Holy Roman Catholic Church, we should look at what that church resource says on it, and for that I shall quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia, first published in 1907, something I was not even aware existed as a former catholic.
The Catholic Encyclopedia is approved and utilized by the Vatican, and these screen captures show what the Catholic organization has to say about the value of what they have written in it. The resource has their seal of approval. The Encyclopedia was published from 1907 to 1912. 
The Catholic Encyclopedia says this about what the word Christmas is. It is a Mass of Christ, formally first named in 1038 AD as such
The Catholic Encyclopedia states that the Early Church, that being the one founded by the Messiah and followed by his disciples as he instructed for about 250 Years, did not celebrate the concept of birthdays for the Messiah, being a pagan concept to celebrate the birth of deity.
The Catholic Encyclopedia states that in Alexandria gentile Christians in Egypt had various concepts of a celebration, including a gnostic practice, but did not formally began to celebrate until 433 AD, a time that was during Roman Emperor and Catholic rule
The Catholic Encyclopedia Says that Cyprus, Mesopotamia, Armenia, and Asia Minor gentile communities did not seem to celebrate it until 380 AD, and even then it was placed on separate dates by separate groups
The Catholic Encyclopedia says that in Jerusalem there was no Christmas holiday celebration til 385 AD, but 411 AD the population was chastised for keeping it, seemingly stopping the practice, and not until 500s AD did it become a regular holiday when the city was run by gentiles
The Catholic Encyclopedia says that the city of Antioch did not celebrate Christmas until 386 AD, but conservative disciples, which means remnants of the Early Church, rejected the practice. Then formalized there by 402 AD, again like in Jerusalem and Egypt under Roman rule
The Catholic Encyclopedia Says that the holiday of Christmas seemed to have been part of holidays in Rome by 354 AD, which would place it after the time of Roman Emperor Constantine mandating it under the title of a Roman Catholic Holiday
The Catholic Encyclopedia continues to say that the December 25 holiday for Christmas was celebrated in Rome, but that other locations rejected it, but after the 400s AD it was designated on all calendars of the Holy Roman Empire, and this the Holy Roman Catholic Church as well
The Catholic Encyclopedia notes under the heading of Christmas that the gospels do not support the date of December 25 as the birth of the Messiah
The Catholic Encyclopedia notes that the feasts of the Mosaic Covenant match events of the Messiah, along with prophecy, would place the birth you of the Messiah around September that year.
The Catholic Encyclopedia discusses the Natalis Invicti Roman Solar Featival, the Feast is the Sun on December 25, and how and why it was used to pick the Roman Catholic date for Christmas
The Catholic Encyclopedia continues with the discussion on the Natalis Invicti solar cult festival, and how the date and practice were shunned for celebrating December 25 for the birth of the Messiah.
The Catholic Encyclopedia openly states that the date chosen for Christmas of December 25 is based on a pagan solar cult holy day of Rome
The 1st part of this thread dealt with what the Catholic Encyclopedia said was the when and where of December 25 being called Christ Mass by the Catholic Church, the 2nd part will be on what the same Encyclopedia says were the introductions of christmas traditions
The Catholic Encyclopedia has already stated that there is nothing to support December 25 as the birth date of the Messiah, never the less, in this part of the Encyclopedia entry for Christmas it says that all the other dates of biblical events are based on a December 25 birth
The Catholic Encyclopedia previously stated that christmas was not even considered a major catholic holiday for hundreds of years, and here we see that it took some time before it was even considered a day of rest
The Catholic Encyclopedia notes here that the concept of a Christmas play or pageant was added, and one play performed included actors who portrayed Virgil and Sibyl, of the pagan Apollyon Oracle
The Catholic Encyclopedia pinpoints the origin of the Christmas nativity scene, first put together by Francis of Assisi in 1223 AD, and notes that the specific animals included in the scenes are incorrect because of misinterpretation of the Bible, yet still used for centuries
The Catholic Encyclopedia has a section for the origins of Christmas carols, showing that the songs for this did not start until between 1000 and 1200 AD
The Catholic Encyclopedia states that the concept of giving gifts and letters around Christmas was a result of a pagan tradition associated with a pagan holiday, a pagan act condemned by the Early Church writers hundreds of years before the Catholic Church mandated Christmas
The Catholic Encyclopedia speaks of the Yule log, and how it was excluded from the tradition of Christmas until 1577 AD, a result of the Nordic pagan custom origins, but then became excepted
The Catholic Encyclopedia records that the Christmas tree, called greenery in the entry, did not become part of the custom in France or England until the 1840s, which comes from pagan religious customs, and clearly says the concept of mistletoe comes from the Druids
The Catholic Encyclopedia calls Santa Claus the custom of the Mysterious Stranger, and identifies him as the Nordic deity Odin, and in 1680 AD as a devil, but start to include him in Christmas as the servant to the holy child
The Catholic Encyclopedia mentions some additional pagan customs officially dropped from being celebrated as christmas as the Catholic Church chose what pagan customs to include for what would become called Christ Mass
The Catholic Encyclopedia includes that the practice of Christmas was forbidden for some time in England, just as with research you can find it was outlawed in America as a devil holiday, for example there was imprisonment punishment in Boston for those celebrating it, as well
All the@quotes of this thread come from the Catholic Encyclopedia for the entry for Christmas, and it concludes with this set of resources for people to do further study as well, they lead to details that openly say December 25 was not the birth of Messiah and more pagan origins
The Catholic Church built and mandated the celebration of Christmas. The purpose of the 1st and 2nd parts of the thread was to show that the Catholic Encyclopedia itself shows pagan origins for December 25 and the customs
The original Church that the Messiah left, the remnant, followed his instructions for 300 years until gentiles in Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch who liked their pagan customs more than his teachings took power and lead a portion of disciples to follow a mixture of pagan traditions
Over time those traditions were forgotten as being pagan, and generations logically thought they had always been celebrated, never knowing these were rejected over and over again as being of pagan design and shunned by those following the instructions left by Messiah
Pray, research, and think about what is in part 1 and 2 of the thread. When I was catholic I had no idea about this, but it is actually in the Catholic Encyclopedia itself as the origins of christmas. It is clearly not what the Early Church following the Messiah supported
Christmas is full of holiday traditions. Have you ever asked why we have been told to bring a tree inside and put silver and gold garland and ornaments on it? How does that connect to the birth of the Messiah? You should pray, question, and research
If you practice it research what is presented on Christmas. The points in this 3 minute video are actually historically accurate, but it is guised in cartoon and a form of humor. Those with Ears to Hear will understand the reason needed for the end segment
If you practice the traditions associated with Christmas, and never thought to ask why you do the traditions, spend 35 minutes to watch this video with paper and pen to take notes and do further research, we are responsible for our actions and thoughts
Please think, Jeremiah 10:3-4, For the customs of the people are vain, for one cuts a TREE out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman with the axe. They DECK IT with SILVER and GOLD, they fasten it with nails and with hammers that it move not.
