Judge Ramos: Here we have a piece of evidence that is already before the jury, it was on the website
AUSA Folly: We may still have an objection.
Scott's lawyer again mentions Robert Courtneidge of Locke Lord
Jurors presumably eating the Danish pastries and bagels the court provides to lure them in before 9:30 am
AUSA Folly: What happened after Ruja gave you a gift of a house?
Konstantin: I became a leader in OneCoin
Konstantin: Yes. Promises weren't kept. I started getting death threats on the phone.
AUSA: Any other threats?
Konstantin: Someone put a gun in my back and I was put in a mini van. I was taken to suburbs of Sophia...
AUSA: After those incidents, did you continue to work with OneCoin?
Konstantin: Yes.
AUSA: Did you hear of arrests?
Konstantin: Yes, of Sebastian Greenwood and Mark Scott.
AUSA: What was the purpose of the trip?
Konstantin: Meetings about the network. I landed in San Fransisco, border patrol took my phone and computer.
Konstantin: No.
AUSA: Why not?
Konstantin: Because I knew I was working for a fraud scheme and I didn't want to get caught.
AUSA: What did you do next?
Konstantin: I threw out my computer.
Konstantin: I put it in a trash back and threw it out in Las Vegas. But when I went to LAX to fly out, I got arrested by the FBI.
AUSA: were you truthful?
Konstantin: No. I saw things were getting serious. I was afraid of going to jail.
Konstantin: Months after my arrest.
[Inner City Press note: #6ix9ine started cooperating the same day he was arrested - there are difference, of course, including his car jacking by Harv Ellison].
Konstantin: Yes.
[But when? Was the proceeding closed? Or just, no one went? Inner City Press has questions pending with US Attorney's Office spokesman, since yesterday.]
AUSA: Is this your cooperation agreement?
Konstantin: Yes
Konstantin: They would bring cash, like to the office in Sophia. They'd get a code for educational package.
Konstantin: to the safe on the third floor. The size of a little room.
AUSA Folly: What there a large about of money in there?
Scott's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Ramos: Overruled.
Konstantin: Very very common. Expensive brands, jewelry.
AUSA: How much did the jewelry cost?
Konstantin: One item was over $1 million.
AUSA: What was her source of income?
Konstantin: She was running OneCoin.
[Inner City Press note: cc @JamieJBartlett]
Konstantin: It was still under construction.
AUSA Folly: What kind of cars did she have?
Konstantin: A Porsche, an armored Lexus... She was always afraid someone would kidnap her.
AUSA: How much did Ruja make from OneCoin before she disappeared?
Konstantin: Over $500 million.
Konstantin: No.
AUSA Folly: Did Ruja ever invest in OneCoin?
Konstantin: No.
Konstantin: There were two Russian gentlemen, one called Anton...
Konstantin: Yes. Ruja said she got a legal opinion from them.
AUSA: Did Ruja have any other lawyers on OneCoin business?
Konstantin: Yes. A Martin Bridenback [spelling?]
AUSA: Did it ever get stolen?
Konstantin: Yes, Sebastian Greenwood stole over $100 million.
Scott's lawyer: Objection!
Judge Ramos: Sustained.
AUSA Folly: Can we have a sidebar?
Judge Ramos: Sure.
[@SDNYLIVE Q: hearsay? Or ethnic reference?]
AUSA: We'll come back to Mr. Aziz who stole at least 100 million Euros from OneCoin.
Konstantin: One of the main money launderers for Ruja.
AUSA: Did you ever report to the police any of these theft?
Konstantin: No. The money came from a criminal activity.
[Again, Inner City Press has requested exhibits from US Attorney's Press Office.]
Konstantin: Irina Dilkinska.
AUSA: As a Bulgarian, what did you call those who worked on this?
Konstantin: Monkeys.
AUSA: OneCoin investors sent money to these shell companies?
Konstantin: Yes.
Scott's lawyer: Objection.
Judge Ramos: Re-phrase.
AUSA Folly: Compared to other OneCoin investors, was it a small or large amount?
Scott's lawyer: Objection!
Judge Ramos: Overruled.
AUSA Folly: Who was Gilbert Armenta?
Konstantin: He was Ruja's boyfriend...
Konstantin: It's Sebastian Greenwood, Ruja and Gilbert Armenta. And Irina Dilkinska.
[Gov Exhibits 123 and 124, Inner City Press has requested access to these exhibits from US Attorney's Press Office, as in #Honduras & #6ix9ine trials]
Konstantin: "He was Ruja Ignatova's boyfriend, business partner and major money launderer."
[Konstantin does not call Ruja "my sister." Maybe he'll be asked to on cross-examination.]
Konstantin: A Bulgarian lawyer in charge of Ruja's properties.
Now a long pause. Is government near the end of exam of Konstantin? No- now Gov Exhibit 55, data from Scott's wife's phone
Konstantin: Yes. I got him a water and showed him into Ruja's office. Ruja told me to bring in Irina Dilkinska then to tell everyone to go home so they could be alone
Konstantin: No, I went home with everyone.
AUSA: Was it comment for Ruja to order people to go home?
Konstantin: No, this was the only time.
Yes, Inner City Press has asked the US Attorney's Press Office for access to these exhibits.
[It would seem Scott's lawyer's will want to address this seeming guilty knowledge, when they cross
Konstantin: I tried to find where OneCoin had money. I spoke with Frank Schneider.
AUSA: Who was he?
Konstantin: Ruja got her information about law enforcement investigations from him. He was a money launderer
[Inner City Press: given the witnesses who declined to testify, even by video, this jury will only hear of Bank of Ireland from stipulations - which despite requests we still don't have
Konstantin: Mark Scott.
AUSA: And Schneider said US had well placed informant who might be M.S., should be careful.
Konstantin: Yes. And I was told I was mentioned
Konstantin: Encrypted email.
AUSA: Did others in OneCoin use protonmail?
Konstantin: Yes.
[Inner City Press: no sure what this proves, or why Scott's lawyers didn't object to the implication. #JustSayin
Konstantin: Mark Scott. For money laundering.
AUSA Foley: Where did you first meet Gilbert Armenta?
Konstantin: In Sophia, Bulgaria. Then again at Ruja's daughter's birthday party, or christening, at the Bulgaria seaside
Konstantin: In Frankfurt, Germany.
AUSA Folly: And where did Ruja live?
Konstantin: In Sophia, Bulgaria.
Konstantin: Mostly sports. And women. But he also brought up money and Ruja.
AUSA Folly: What did Ruja tell you about Gilbert Armenta?
Konstantin: That he was an international money launderer
Konstantin: Mark Scott, Amr Abdul Aziz and Alex Ortega.
AUSA: In what region did he work?
Konstantin: Latin America.
AUSA introduces exhibit about Ortega opening accounts in #Brazil for OneCoin/OneLife
Konstantin: No.
AUSA Folly: Before she disappeared, what did she tell you?
Konstantin: That she got a 'big passport,' like Frank Schneider and Sebastian Greenwood.
Konstantin: Married. But they were both talking about getting divorced and having kids together.
AUSA Folly: Where was Armenta living?
Konstantin: In Florida.
Konstantin: An apartment was bought underneath Armenta's and a hole was drilled in the ceiling to listen in. AUSA: Who bought the apartment?
Konstantin: One of Frank Schneider's people.
and that's why Ruja's learned he was working with the FBI?]
Konstantin: Ruja told me she knew someone very rich and powerful there.
Konstantin: We tried a private investigator, not successful. Then we tried with Frank Schneider. He brought with him a former Special Forces employee who was responsible for kidnapping
Konstantin: No.
AUSA: Did Mark Scott use a cryptophone like Ruja?
Konstantin: Yes. But he wrote to me saying his didn't work. I told him to send it to our Dubai office. [GX exhibit, requested by Press but not yet provided
Judge Ramos: We'll have a break before cross examination of Mr. Ignatov.
#OneCoin trial thread will continue soon, here. pscp.tv/w/1ZkKzAEEMYyxv
Now Scott's lawyer Arlo Devlin-Brown is starting to cross examine Konstantin Ignatov.
Arlo: You only met Mark Scott once, right?
Konstanin: Right.
Konstantin: Only e-mail.
Arlo: Are you sure that Irina Dilkinska was at the meeting you testified about?
Konstanin: I'm pretty sure.
Arlo: 100% sure?
Konstantin: I'm pretty sure Ruja said bring her up.
Konstantin: No, I heard Ruja on the phone talking.
Arlo: The US gave you a binder of emails with Mark Scott. They are mostly about travel, not about Fenero Funds or block-chain, right?
Konstantin: Right
Konstantin: Right.
Arlo: You talked about attending OneCoin conferences, like in June of 2016, the "This Girl is On Fire" conference, right?
Konstantin: Right.
Konstantin: No.
Konstantin: I remember he told me [by email presumably] that he didn't want to go to Sophia for that reason.
Konstantin: Right.
Arlo: You helped run OneLife network, right?
Konstantin: I was paid for a few events
Konstantin: Right.
Arlo: Do you recall a Mercedes was put on auction for OneCoin?
Konstantin: It was a BMW.
Arlo: Ok, a BMW. The price in OneCoin got so expensive it was cancelled, right?
Right.
Konstantin: I never said chopped.
Arlo: Did you say, Cut your head off?
Konstantin: Maybe that Heads will roll.
Konstantin: After I was arrested.
Arlo: Did they have a romantic relationship?
Konstantin: Something strange. They hugged and called each other brother and sister [!]
Meanwhile Inner City Press is trying to figure out if the Abdulaziz just mentioned as buying horses is... this guy: @amerabdulaziz (feel free to reply with no, @SDNYLIVE).
Arlo: But you didn't know that then, right?
Konstantin: Right.
[Apparently the implication is supposed to be, how was Scott to have known]
Konstantin: Yes.
Arlo: But you have no idea what Ruja said about where that money came from?
Konstantin: Not on calls that I wasn't on
AUSA: Objection.
Judge Ramos: Overruled.
Arlo: They called it a family office, right?
Konstantin: I read that for the right time.
Wait: 2800 Euros a month at the dog shelter in Germany? Then 3000 Euros a month working for his sister in Sophia?
Details, details....
Konstantin: Right.
Arlo: Ruja has fired her assistant because she suspected her of having a romantic relationship with Sebastian Greenwood?
Konstantin: That's correct.
Konstantin: Right.
Arlo: Didn't Ruja tell you the blockchain had KYC information right in it?
Konstantin: Yes.
Konstantin: That's what they were called.
Arlo: And an I.T. guy called Ivan said he was showing you the blockchain, right?
Konstantin: Yes.
AUSA: Can we have a brief sidebar?
Judge Ramos: Yes.
Konstantin: I told everyone that. My fiance, too.
Arlo: Your lawyer got letters of support for your bail application.
Konstantin: Yes. But I did not read them.
Konstantin: My mother was going to sign.
Arlo: Doesn't she still work at OneCoin?
Judge Ramos: it's 2:30, let's end for the day. Dress warmly tomorrow. Inner City Press stories soon - & tomorrow