AUSA Podolsky: Are you familiar with the term legal complaint?
Wilson: I am.
AUSA Podolsky: When is a complaint filed?
Wilson: It's the first step in a lawsuit.
Wilson: He didn't say anything about filing a legal complaint on behalf of his [pause] whistleblower... client...
AUSA Podolsky: Why did you ask him if he was wearing a wire?
Wilson: I'm with a lawyer who's asking me to keep information secret - and it was public that Nike was cooperating with SEC
Wilson: Because as a lawyer I can only act for my client... Mr Geragos showed up to some unfinished office space on the 6th floor of his building. I asked him if he had this space wired.
Wilson: Mr. Avenatti, I don't recall if he used the word special or unique, for 2 reasons: on the eve of March Madness, and of the Nike earnings call.
AUSA Podolsky: What happened next?
Wilson: That didn't seem to be resonating.
AUSA Podolsky: How did he respond?
Objection! Whispered sidebar begins.
AUSA Podolsky: What did Avenatti say?
Wilson: I don't remember which of these expletives he used, but he either said "I don't give a f*ck about these kids," or "I don't give a sh*t about these kids."
AUSA Podolsky: What effect did you think this press conference could have on Nike?
Wilson: I thought he could capitalize on Adidas
Wilson: Absolutely not.
AUSA Podolsky: How long did it last?
Wilson: Including the break on the 6th floor, 90 minutes.
Wilson: Yes, I called the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York. I told them about Mr. Avenatti's conduct. And about what new I'd seen about Mr. Franklin.
Wilson to Geragos, after pleasantries about weather: "I'm not saying we agree to your demand, we think it's too much."
AUSA Podolsky - let's stop and ask, Who is Michael in this?
Wilson: Mr. Avenatti.
AUSA Podolsky: Let's listen to the rest of the call.
AUSA Podolsky (in Courtroom 110) - What did you think that meant?
Wilson: Mr. Geragos' limited ability to hold Mr. Avenatti back.
AUSA Podolsky: Let's turn to Exhibit 4.
AUSA Podolsky: When he said, "Then we're done," what did you think he meant?
Wilson: That's he'd go public.
AUSA Podolsky: How did you get to Mr Geragos' office that day?
Wilson: I walked.
Objection!
Judge Gardephe: Overrules.
Wilson: Yes. Because there are conflict rules.
Wilson: Yes, junior partner $500 an hour, senior partner $1300 an hour, like that.
Wilson: Parents paying bribes to get their kids into USC.
AUSA Podolsky: Then Mr. Avenatti said, It will be up to Nike whether they self-disclose... those aren't our decisions to make.
Wilson: It was a crazy thing. We were in the twilight zone.
Judge Gardephe: We'll take lunch break now. [To the jurors] Please don't discuss the case. We'll resume at 2 pm.
But there's more....
From the gallery: Yes.
[It's a Mr Skinner.]
Judge Gardephe: I'm aware from the 3500 material that Mr. Holmes was interviewed. Does the privilege survive?
And it's done, for now: lunch time. Thread will continue.
Srebnick: You refused to speak with us, Mr. Wilson, right?
Wilson: Yes, I declined.
Srebnick: So that meeting, Mr. Holmes took notes, correct?
Wilson: That is the correct spelling of his name.
Wilson: There was questions about that.
Srebnick: About self-reporting, what is your understanding?
Wilson: Voluntary reporting. Someone Mr. Avenatti knew of grand jury subpoena
Wilson: Yes.
Srebnick: Nike was concerned about criminal exposure?
Wilson: I don't know.
Srebnick: Did Nike meet with the SDNY prosecutors, in Oct 2017?
Wilson: I'm not sure if in October.
Wilson: Nike said it publicly.
Srebnick: But not about the grand jury, required for a felony, right?
Judge Gardephe: I think we're getting pretty far afield.
Wilson: To the extent they had been identified as responsive.
AUSA: Objection, Your Honor.
Judge Gardephe: Do you want to approach?
Sidebar.
AUSA: Objection.
Judge Gardephe: You're going to have to break that down.
Srebnick: Mr. Geragos appeared to be a proponent of having the meeting with Mr. Avenatti?
Wilson: He's Nike's head of global marketing.
Srebnick: Did that put Nike on red alert?
Wilson: My understand is it was vague.
AUSA: Objection.
Judge Gardephe: Sustained.
Wilson: I was in listening mode.
Srebnick: When Mr. Avenatti referred to Nike payments to the Number One draft, you knew who that was?
Wilson: I did.
SDNY AUSA: Objection?
Judge Gardephe: Overruled.
Wilson: I do recall he said he was aware of a subpoena.
Wilson: I have become aware.
Srebnick: Do you recall Mr. Avenatti saying that Carlton Debose and Jamal James (sp) squeezed out his client?
Wilson: I don't recall that.
Wilson: I recall the phrase "other claims"... I knew Mr. Ayton had played with Cal Supreme, so I suspected it involved Mr. Franklin.
Wilson: I don't remember if it was to the mother or to the player himself.
Wilson: A flight was discussed.
Wilson: I'm not sure from whose perspective it was successful, but it was resolved.
Wilson: He made a two part demand.
Srebnick: Do you recall Avenatti saying he would draft a settlement which would not prevent his client from testifying to the government?
Wilson: I don't recall that.
Now AUSA Podolsky insists he doesn't know what the Srebnicks mean by "white wash."
Judge Gardephe: That's what Mr. Srebnick wants to get into. Whether the source of Mr. Wilson's anxiety was much more personal
Gardephe: No, no, no. But there is a germ of possible bias you should be allowed to explore.
Judge Gardephe: I'd be predisposed to allow you to ask him if they were interviewed. I don't see any problem with that, the witnesses are central here. Anything else?
Judge Gardephe: I'm aware of it. I haven't read it, but I'm aware of it.
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