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1) we have to talk about the mythical #Brexit deal
I saw this and was originally going to write a thread about the gullibility of leavers but then it occurred to me, why shouldn't they believe Johnson is working towards a better deal? Everyone is telling them it's possible
I saw this and was originally going to write a thread about the gullibility of leavers but then it occurred to me, why shouldn't they believe Johnson is working towards a better deal? Everyone is telling them it's possible
2) all of us in the Remain bubble understand the duplicity of Johnson, and the play acting of the Labour party on "jobs first brexit", and even why the opposition parties are sticking with "stop no deal"and not "stop #Brexit"
But consider how all this looks to your average voter
But consider how all this looks to your average voter
3) LDs, Greens,SNP, PC are all clear - there is no deal better than staying in the EU
But all rebel alliance parties together are certainly *not* saying that. A fair few people, especially but not only Labour, are pretending that a better deal is possible,if only we asked for it
But all rebel alliance parties together are certainly *not* saying that. A fair few people, especially but not only Labour, are pretending that a better deal is possible,if only we asked for it
5) the fact is if you want to leave but want to believe in a Johnson Brexit deal, you can do so. If you are a Labour Leaver, you may prefer the Corbyn was negotiating, but you'll settle for Johnson
6) the simple fact is only the smaller alliance parties are telling the truth on the impossibility of a good #Brexit deal
The 2 major parties are doing all they can to tell people something better than May's deal is possible, if only we negotiated more firmly/more kindly
The 2 major parties are doing all they can to tell people something better than May's deal is possible, if only we negotiated more firmly/more kindly
7) last night, Thornberry was forced into a corner defending the Labour position actually said "it's in EUs interest to do a (better) deal"
Or they need us at least as much as we need them
She didn't mean to, she certainly doesn't believe it, but she was forced into that line
Or they need us at least as much as we need them
She didn't mean to, she certainly doesn't believe it, but she was forced into that line
8) most leavers, don't want a no deal
But it's hard giving up on Brexit
So if they can believe a deal is possible, many will take the "I want no deal" because they believe in the power of the bluff
Why shouldn't they, the Tories and Labour are saying there's a better deal
But it's hard giving up on Brexit
So if they can believe a deal is possible, many will take the "I want no deal" because they believe in the power of the bluff
Why shouldn't they, the Tories and Labour are saying there's a better deal
9) I think now this is why public opinion hasn't shifted more. Both major parties, as policy, are stating the fabrication that a better deal than May's is possible, that will protect jobs an/or give us all we want
Why wouldn't you believe it, especially if you really wanted to
Why wouldn't you believe it, especially if you really wanted to
10) this isn't meant to be an attack on Labour - but if you really want more people to believe all possible Brexits are foolish and damaging you can't have both major parties saying their version wouldn't be
You've expecting people to disbelieve both major parties
You've expecting people to disbelieve both major parties
11) if we want to really, really stop brexit we need 60% or more to believe it's damaging
That won't happen as long as Labour agrees with Johnson that it might not be
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That won't happen as long as Labour agrees with Johnson that it might not be
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