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Remainers need to stop telling Labour it should join a pact & stand down in some areas as part of the 'Remain Alliance'.
The Lib/Lab vote is not interchangeable enough & hasn't been since the Tory/Lib coalition.
The result would be even more voters disenfranchised.. 1/
Remainers need to stop telling Labour it should join a pact & stand down in some areas as part of the 'Remain Alliance'.
The Lib/Lab vote is not interchangeable enough & hasn't been since the Tory/Lib coalition.
The result would be even more voters disenfranchised.. 1/
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Every ordinary voter should be able to vote Labour, that is what the party stands for and that is important.
The other result, an unintended consequence perhaps, is that disaffected Tories have nowhere to go if Lib Dems have stood down. The Tory/Lab, Tory/Green etc vote..
Every ordinary voter should be able to vote Labour, that is what the party stands for and that is important.
The other result, an unintended consequence perhaps, is that disaffected Tories have nowhere to go if Lib Dems have stood down. The Tory/Lab, Tory/Green etc vote..
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Is also not interchangeable enough.
The Lib Dems could do well (by their standards) at this election by regaining Tory seats they lost in 2015 by attracting Tory remainers.
To do that they don't need Labour to stand down, they just need Labour to not throw lots of money &..
Is also not interchangeable enough.
The Lib Dems could do well (by their standards) at this election by regaining Tory seats they lost in 2015 by attracting Tory remainers.
To do that they don't need Labour to stand down, they just need Labour to not throw lots of money &..
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resources at the seat. And not mislead the electorate about their chances for overthrowing the Tory incumbent. See photo of literature from my seat where they are a distant 3rd & LOST votes in 2017 in spite of a pro Remain vote swap
resources at the seat. And not mislead the electorate about their chances for overthrowing the Tory incumbent. See photo of literature from my seat where they are a distant 3rd & LOST votes in 2017 in spite of a pro Remain vote swap
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Labour already don't throw resources at non target seats & their activists are neither numerous or very active, instead often going to a nearby marginal if they can.
The Lib Dems have attracted some big Tory donors who are upset about Brexit. They are spending that money in..
Labour already don't throw resources at non target seats & their activists are neither numerous or very active, instead often going to a nearby marginal if they can.
The Lib Dems have attracted some big Tory donors who are upset about Brexit. They are spending that money in..
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areas where they are a million times more likely to prevent Labour taking a Tory seat/keep a Tory in than winning the vote themselves.
The electorate know how to vote tactically & did so before 2010. We don't need pacts!
The other problem with Lab joining a 'pact' is..
areas where they are a million times more likely to prevent Labour taking a Tory seat/keep a Tory in than winning the vote themselves.
The electorate know how to vote tactically & did so before 2010. We don't need pacts!
The other problem with Lab joining a 'pact' is..
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Labour would push away its soft leave vote by being a 'Remain party'. Result: Tory majority and no referendum.
If you voted Labour in 2017, then just do it again. If you're a remainer & you voted Labour 'tactically' when they weren't offering a referendum, why would you..
Labour would push away its soft leave vote by being a 'Remain party'. Result: Tory majority and no referendum.
If you voted Labour in 2017, then just do it again. If you're a remainer & you voted Labour 'tactically' when they weren't offering a referendum, why would you..
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now NOT vote Labour when they are, and have successfully stopped a hard Brexit up until now? Telling me its to do with 'trust' or taking too long etc etc does not wash with me, a fellow remainer.
Labour will already NOT challenge for Lib/Tory marginals. It'll be a..
now NOT vote Labour when they are, and have successfully stopped a hard Brexit up until now? Telling me its to do with 'trust' or taking too long etc etc does not wash with me, a fellow remainer.
Labour will already NOT challenge for Lib/Tory marginals. It'll be a..
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Paper candidate with practically no funding. That's enough for the Lib Dems to win it.
TLDR:
Both lab & Lib Dems should stand as LDs help Labour by attracting Tories & Lab don't challenge in Lib/Tory marginals anyway! No pact needed & won't actually work.
Paper candidate with practically no funding. That's enough for the Lib Dems to win it.
TLDR:
Both lab & Lib Dems should stand as LDs help Labour by attracting Tories & Lab don't challenge in Lib/Tory marginals anyway! No pact needed & won't actually work.
