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Dead Extradition Bill Q&A
Realizing not everyone wants to read such a long thread regarding the Extradition bill on which protests began on, and after engaging many people on the topic, I thought I'd put together the most common opposition objections/questions here.
#HongKong
Realizing not everyone wants to read such a long thread regarding the Extradition bill on which protests began on, and after engaging many people on the topic, I thought I'd put together the most common opposition objections/questions here.
#HongKong
🐷 The bill puts everyone at risk for deportation to China, including foreigners
🐯 Incorrect. An extradition would cover mainland based crimes. HK crimes/criminals would still be handled locally. Would be next to impossible to extradite someone who hasn't been to the mainland
🐯 Incorrect. An extradition would cover mainland based crimes. HK crimes/criminals would still be handled locally. Would be next to impossible to extradite someone who hasn't been to the mainland
🐷 What about trumped up charges political / humanitarian / activism related?
🐯 All excluded from extradition eligibility along with many other categories of concern.
🐯 All excluded from extradition eligibility along with many other categories of concern.
🐷 There are many other things that are illegal in the mainland that aren't crimes in Hong Kong.
🐯 In order to be eligible for extradition, the crime needs to be a crime BOTH in the mainland and in Hong Kong.
🐯 In order to be eligible for extradition, the crime needs to be a crime BOTH in the mainland and in Hong Kong.
🐷 The bill gives the CE too much power to order an extradition on anyone who went to the mainland whom they can pin something on, and the CE is loyal to Beijing
🐯 Wrong, the bill gives her no power to simply order an extradition, but would have great power to refuse/stop one.
🐯 Wrong, the bill gives her no power to simply order an extradition, but would have great power to refuse/stop one.
🐷 It puts past visitors to the mainland at risk of having bogus crimes pinned on them
🐯 A mini trial happens in HK courts first, going into an examination of the case and verifies that the evidence would be admissible in HK courts. An appeal process also exists for the accused
🐯 A mini trial happens in HK courts first, going into an examination of the case and verifies that the evidence would be admissible in HK courts. An appeal process also exists for the accused
🐷 If they are extradited, they won't have a fair trial and their courts aren't transparent.
🐯 The bill specifically states the principles on how the case should be tried in the mainland & is auditable, as it also requires the trial be completely open to the public.
🐯 The bill specifically states the principles on how the case should be tried in the mainland & is auditable, as it also requires the trial be completely open to the public.
🐷 They have the death penalty in China, we don't in Hong Kong.
🐯 The bill states that the death penalty can not be used in the event an extradited criminal is eventually in fact found to be guilty.
🐷 Well, I still don't like it.
🐯 The bill states that the death penalty can not be used in the event an extradited criminal is eventually in fact found to be guilty.
🐷 Well, I still don't like it.
🐯 Lemmi ask you a question, what alternate solution do you have, if let's say a mainland criminal with an HKID raped/murdered someone in the mainland, and moved in next-door to you, having total immunity in HK
🐷 We could deal with it on a case by case basis
🐷 We could deal with it on a case by case basis
🐯 So you're concerned about extradition abuses, but prefer a case-by-case system, without an immensely detailed guideline, containing built in processes, safeguards, appeal mechanisms and strict follow-up requirements/ rules for the mainland receiving side?
🐷 *empty*
🐷 *empty*
Well... We have worse than that now.
Although the extradition bill was designed with mainland-grade safeguards in mind, it was to be implemented for all countries they didn't have an existing agreement with, including Taiwan.
Although the extradition bill was designed with mainland-grade safeguards in mind, it was to be implemented for all countries they didn't have an existing agreement with, including Taiwan.
Chan Tong-kai, who admitted to killing his 20y old pregnant girlfriend in Taiwan by bashing her head, strangling her, stuffing her into a suitcase, then dumping it, is set to be released into Hong Kong next month.
Maybe he'll show thanks to his protestors by joining forces.
Maybe he'll show thanks to his protestors by joining forces.
