Dedicating this thread to @RepCummings who said: "When we're dancing with the angels, the question will be asked: In 2019, what did we do to make sure we kept our democracy intact?"
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I surprised he did not ask for Obama's birth certificate.
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"Impeachment process in search of crime."
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Now Schiff introduces George Kent.
Says hearings are open and non-classified
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Schiff has this under control. Calm authority.
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He also mentioned that he studied under Zbigniew Brzezinski.
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"It is clearly in our national iterest to deter further Russian aggression."
Withholding assistance in exchange for aid for Trump in the election "would be crazy."
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The corrupt pro-Putin Ukrainian president (that Manafort helped get elected) allowed military to grow week. But then US helped.
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Now he's talking about how he was there when "lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine" was discussed.
Note Javelins are defensive weapons against Russian tanks.
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His wife didn't want him to be acting Amb
Mentor said, "if your country asks you to do something" you should if you can be effective.
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Yet, saw confusing policy arrangement. Saw two channels. One regular, formal process. One though was irregular.
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By August, "I became increasingly concerned" as channels began to diverge.
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By mid-July he understand that the meeting was conditioned on investigating the fake conspiracy re Ukraine supposed interference in 2016 election and Burisma/Biden
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Hold lasted well into September.
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Taylor met with President Zelensky directly and went to the front lines. Commander thanked them for the assistance, but Taylor was aware it was on hold
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By August, he was beginning to fear the long-term US policy to support for Ukraine was shifting.
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Morrison said "It remains to be seen." He also added that President Trump wanted to provide no support at all to Ukraine.
Ukrainians not aware of hold until Aug. 29th
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Wrote: "Russians would love to see the humiliation of Zelensky at the hands of the Americans."
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Taylor till did not know (until Sept. 1st) that the withholding aid was related to the investigations of Biden etc. But funds would expire by September 30 (that's end of budget year for Congress).
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Then Morrison said it was troubling not to know what to say to Ukrainians about withheld assistance
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Said Trump said not a quid-pro-quo, but wanted Zelensky to go to a microphone and announce the investigation of Burisma/Biden.
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Taylor messaged Sondland saying that what if Zelensky gives announcement and then still withhold
"The Russians love it and I quit."
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But Taylor said it was a bad analogy because Ukraine did not owe us
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When (who?) learned of funds being released, they were livid.
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"We keep very careful track of the casualties."
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Taylor said Ukrainians are eager to end this war with Russia leaving their territory. They would like to be negotiating from a position of more strength.
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Taylor said he had not.
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Taylor said that would include getting them to refrain from selective political prosecution and persecution of their opponents.
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Text from Taylor to Sondland says: "Are we now saying security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?"
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Taylor: "I understand that they may be coming sooner or later.
Goldman" "we would welcome that"
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After the text Sondland texted back saying to call him. Then Taylor called back.
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Taylor said that Sondland was describing Trump's thought process. He used that analogy to indicate that this would require something. "He wanted to get whatever he was owed paid back to him."
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"There was a feeling by President Trump and this came out in the discussion with the inaugural delegation on May 23 that he had a feeling of being wronged by the Ukrainians."
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Here's a screenshot for your reference. Also, link here for a cache of the related texts etc. foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/a…
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cnn.com/2019/09/25/pol…
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Goldman referenced this passage as well
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Complaining Democrats did not read the actual transcript. But Goldman did.
Nunes is obsessed with something Schiff said over a month ago.
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Gotta go get ready for class. Back at 3.
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Taylor: "I don't think so ma'am."
Kent: "No he was not."
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Also Hatch Act violation was raised.
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While Taylor could not rule it out, he was not aware
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Kent: "Some of the language in the call gave cause for concern."
Taylor: "I agree." (He referred to the discussion of Ambassador Yovanovitch.)
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Then some motion by Rep. Conway. I missed what the motion was
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(1) All contacts between whistleblower and democrats
(2) Supposed Ukrainian meddling in the election
(3) Hunter Biden's role at Burisma
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He has not met with the whistleblower. The Republicans keep saying that but the claim is false.
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Now Chair Schiff announced we are adjourned. It's 3:52 pm. That's history my friends. First day of the Trump Impeachment hearings completed.
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