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Leave Fallacies Thread
Trade Section
All fallacies applied to or derived from 🇬🇧 Trading Situation
Trade Section
All fallacies applied to or derived from 🇬🇧 Trading Situation
Trade 2. Commonwealth EMOTION.
The belief is EU suppresses trade with the Commonwealth. Don't know, once you exclude individual negotiations with Canada/Aus/India, that the EU gives most of the Commonwealth tariff-free access to the EU. Instead, leave means going backwards.
The belief is EU suppresses trade with the Commonwealth. Don't know, once you exclude individual negotiations with Canada/Aus/India, that the EU gives most of the Commonwealth tariff-free access to the EU. Instead, leave means going backwards.
Trade 3. Do Better. EMOTION
Since most don't know about non-EU deals, also don't know that we have FTAs (except the US, next page).
So tend to argue the UK can *negotiate better"
Except you can't get better than an FTA, you can only get worse. Or have a long period of nothing.
Since most don't know about non-EU deals, also don't know that we have FTAs (except the US, next page).
So tend to argue the UK can *negotiate better"
Except you can't get better than an FTA, you can only get worse. Or have a long period of nothing.
Trade 4. US EMOTION
There's no understanding that we have 30 sectoral deals with the US, the closest to FTA since the US pulled out of TTIP.
Don't appreciate that the only additional US trade is in things our Government have opposed for years. So why would we want them?👇
There's no understanding that we have 30 sectoral deals with the US, the closest to FTA since the US pulled out of TTIP.
Don't appreciate that the only additional US trade is in things our Government have opposed for years. So why would we want them?👇
Trade 5. Canada.
This is a no-deal flaw. 90% don't know that Canada FTA failed. Of the 10% who are aware, none know why.
Since Canada failed due to No Deal (it makes us look weak with no options, Canada is holding out for more) this should be something everyone knows.
It's not
This is a no-deal flaw. 90% don't know that Canada FTA failed. Of the 10% who are aware, none know why.
Since Canada failed due to No Deal (it makes us look weak with no options, Canada is holding out for more) this should be something everyone knows.
It's not
Trade 6. SKorea Fail
Of the 100 or so I spoke to 1 knew we almost lost SKorea due to No Deal.
No one knew that we had to agree to comply with EU terms to get the deal. This leaves us as a Mogg defined Vassal State, bound to EU to keep the deal, rule-taker
Should be known by all
Of the 100 or so I spoke to 1 knew we almost lost SKorea due to No Deal.
No one knew that we had to agree to comply with EU terms to get the deal. This leaves us as a Mogg defined Vassal State, bound to EU to keep the deal, rule-taker
Should be known by all
Trade 7. Trade Blocs
It's as if most don't know Trade Blocs exist. This is the independence myth because even in WTO you have to adopt the trading standards of a bloc.
Since our standards are the ones we created with the EU, isn't that vassal state alone?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc
It's as if most don't know Trade Blocs exist. This is the independence myth because even in WTO you have to adopt the trading standards of a bloc.
Since our standards are the ones we created with the EU, isn't that vassal state alone?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc
Trade 8. Trade Blocs V2.
This chart shown to 100 leavers. It clearly shows why there is no benefit to leaving and No Deal undermines us.
They either refuse to believe it (despite sources) or refuse to engage on it. Matrix blue pill, steak
We need to teach this stuff in school.
This chart shown to 100 leavers. It clearly shows why there is no benefit to leaving and No Deal undermines us.
They either refuse to believe it (despite sources) or refuse to engage on it. Matrix blue pill, steak
We need to teach this stuff in school.
Trade 9. Variable Regulations.
There's an idea that goes around that we can shed ourselves of variable EU administration problems when we leave. No one knows what those are. But presumably, we adopt USA or Chiese trade bloc rules? That seems to add administration because👇
There's an idea that goes around that we can shed ourselves of variable EU administration problems when we leave. No one knows what those are. But presumably, we adopt USA or Chiese trade bloc rules? That seems to add administration because👇
Trade 10. Fish. EMOTION
They don't know that of the total catch 75% of fish and 85% of shellfish are exported to the EU, immediate tariffs w/ No Deal
Don't know we've improved share of fish in the EU. And of course. Fish don't have borders.
Pescocide👇
google.com/amp/s/theconve…
They don't know that of the total catch 75% of fish and 85% of shellfish are exported to the EU, immediate tariffs w/ No Deal
Don't know we've improved share of fish in the EU. And of course. Fish don't have borders.
Pescocide👇
google.com/amp/s/theconve…
