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Virtually every panel from #newsnight to #bbcqt has been dominated by Tory Brexiters & born again Labour "we must deliver #brexit" ones

One key outcome of @TheIndGroup is it's forced @BBCNews to actually feature authentic Remain voices rather than just red/blue Brexit supporters
@TheIndGroup @BBCNews The BBC has failed on #Brexit on many areas but a key 1 has been "balancing" Labour & Tory #Brexit voices - in reality you can barely put a cigarette paper between Corbyn and May on their positions

Labour & Tories are on the same side on this

@TheIndGroup @BBCNews We're still seeing this lack of true balance on the BBC. Labour's ask for a CU in May's deal is being called a soft #Brexit alternative when in reality May's deal already includes a CU in all but name. They're arguing over wording, not substance.

@TheIndGroup @BBCNews Half the country wants Remain.
Not Labour's half baked "Jobs first" variation of hard Brexit. Not even the members want that

So @CharlesHMoore whining that not enough "pure" 1st edition brexiters are on cuts little ice, brexiters are over represented

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There is literally nothing new here
Corbyn never promised SM - or a #PeoplesVote. He was always against FoM. His & May's position is identical & he was never interested in what @UKLabour conference thought

Corbyn supporters who insisted otherwise were gullible or gaslighting
This isn't just about #Brexit. This is a party leader who came in on an "empower the members" ticket & has subsequently treated that membership with contempt. He's do whatever he, personally, sees fit

And if you're still a Labour MP or member - you're facilitating this
WTF?
Meanwhile the front bench in @UKLabour has sunk so low that Long Bailey cannot even answer the question "would you choose #RevokeArticle50 over no deal?"

It's beyond belief that current Corbyn supporters used to attack "Blairites" for "Triangulation"

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tony nog #FBPE
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1) Brexit can't be solved
Great spot by @KirstyS_Hughes
This is the central paradox of #Brexit which is incredibly simple but has been buried in the noise

There is a #Brexit which gives us "freedom" but at an unacceptable cost - hard managed Brexit to no deal crash out
@KirstyS_Hughes 2) whether we crash out with no deal or exit in a managed fashion with a minimal FTA the knock on costs over the mid to long term would be unacceptable to the public (ironically, probably to many leavers included)

And the backstop is a legal requirement anyway
@KirstyS_Hughes 3) there's also a Brexit which has an acceptable cost but unacceptable loss of autonomy. Even if we settle on a CU or CU+SM or some fudge in between it still makes the UK a rule taker.

It's an unsustainable model, we'll be fighting over it for the next 10 years
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tony nog #FBPE
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1) We're facing a deluge of fake news & normalisation of "no deal" from the ERG & hard Brexiters

It was also revealed that £1m is being poured from somewhere into fake "grassroots" no deal FB sites

And now Labour MPs like
@LucyMPowell @lisanandy @gareth_snell are helping
@LucyMPowell @lisanandy @gareth_snell 2) the above tweet, like the well publicised letter by 25 Labour MPs asking Corbyn to strike a deal, refers to a highly selective cherry picking up of a wider poll which has been called out by YouGov themselves
#PeoplesVote
@LucyMPowell @lisanandy @gareth_snell 3) I know we expect this from certain parties & clickbait commentators but from Labour MPs? Distributing highly selective interpretations of polls to make no deal seem more "normal", more widespread in popularity?
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In an effort to show why it is hard to explain what's happening #Brexit wise in UK at the moment, I made some slightly whimsical opening remarks to the @IIEA #CountdowntoBrexit event today.

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(to be taken with a dash of salt 🧂)
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1. The UK has not yet come to terms with leaving the EU.

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& it hasn't come to terms with consequences of leaving (e.g. border controls).
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3/6
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