Both Labour voters until yesterday. Both point to the scale of what Boris Johnson did yesterday.
And both indicate the problem the Tories could face in 2024 if they do not deliver for those voters.
1/.
"Jeremy Corbyn just doesn't represent me, mate. It's the IRA connection for me. A lot of people missed this but no-one represented us for the justice for the 21, the people who died at the hands of the IRA."
"He didn't sit with my moral compass to let him represent me. There's an awful lot of people in Birmingham who think the same way. It's massive in Birmingham."
3/.
"We don't want Boris. We'd no choice. You want me to vote Farage. I'm not going to vote for that bigot. We were stuck in a pickle.
"That exit poll last broke my heart."
4/.
He and his family voted Tory instead of Labour for the first time.
"It's like having to put your dog down when it's poorly. It's the right thing to do but it's so terrible."
@mrjamesob: "What would you say to him?"
Andy: "I would just ask him to look at Jeremy Corbyn and make his own mind up."
"He only spoke to the few. Families like mine, in areas like mine, he sold us down the river. For what?"
"I couldn't vote for Corbyn who would have led us to thinks I could never agree with."
"I have loaned him my vote. If he doesn't stick up for my vote then he won't get it again. I want to see Brexit get done.
"I'm still shaking at the fact I voted for Boris yesterday. It depends what he does."
And ends....