But that would mean that smarter people than me who have looked at the same facts as me and come to the same conclusions are also wrong.
Leaver: We need to control our borders.
Remainer: We kind of already do.
L: I mean UK borders - stop Freedom of Movement from the EU!
L: [one of many reasons]
R: [refutes reason with facts]
R: You live in an area with less than 1% migrants.
L: Well, in other areas.
R: You work with some migrants. They're your neighbours. Your cousin married one.
L: Well, *they're* okay, but the rest of them...
Leaver: We need to take back control!
Remainer: We already have control.
L: Absolute control! We must take it back from those unelected bureaucrats.
R: *sigh* but they are elected...
L: Not by me.
R: Did you vote for the Prime Minister?
L: Yes/No - I voted for [party]
L: Well, yes
R: Did you get to choose the leader?
R: Did you get to choose the MP from your party?
L: But they should do what we voted for - my area voted Leave! Leave means Leave!
L: But why do we have to follow EU rules and laws? What about sovereignty?
L: Ha! But they can't change it can they??
L: Ha! But they can't change them beyond the directive or revoke them!
R: Well... they can, but it's much more difficult.
R: They can work within the EU (council & parliament) to try to reach a consensus where everyone agrees to change or revoke. Like I said, it's not easy...
L: [a rule]
R: That's within the power of the UK parliament.
L: [law rule]
R: So's that.
L: [another rule]
R: That;s not even a thing.
L: ... Freedom of Movement?
R: Piss off!
Leaver: The EU is holding us back! We need to be a globally trading nation!
Remainer: We are...
L: But we can't make our own trade deals!
R: But we are instrumental in making EU trade deals...
R: Not so long. Anyway, trade deals take a while - look at the WTO, they take...
R: Oh, FFS. Let's not go there for now. The EU has made some huge trade deals, they took a while, not so long really, but they're really good.
L: The UK can do that to.
R: They really can't... It's a question of leverage.
R: It really can't, it's not even the strongest economy *in* the EU...
L: We can lower our tariffs and get cheaper food.
R: Most of the food we import comes from the EU - if we go WTO it'll be more expensive.
R: Half of that we already get at 0%
L: Alright, the other bit.
L: I'm fine with that.
R: Chlorinated chicken?
L: Maybe not that.
R: Questionably-farmed food flash-frozen and shipped over several months from China?
R: It will suck.
L: No, it won't.
R: Yes, it will. Trump has an America First policy...
L: What about TTIP?
R: Have you read what's in it?
L: Read it.
R: Read a summary.
L: [readreadread] Okay, fuck that...
R: Many/most come from 0% tariff countries.
L: Cheaper electronics.
R: From China, maybe a little cheaper.
R: Maybe a little. But they want us to lower our standards in return for a trade deal.
R: If you think some of the cheap Chinese stuff we get here is a little wonky, you should see the shit they are selling in markets without the EU's standards...