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Waarom wel in de @newyorkpost en niets in de Nederlandse media?
Koopmans en Fouchier van @ErasmusMC namen ook deel aan de call op 1 februari 2020.
Is hier sprake geweest van een grote cover-up operatie? En met welk doel? @ewaldeng @DevliegerErik…
En dit artikel dat een labongeval naar het rijk der fabelen verwijst.
Ondertekend door Haagmans, eveneens @ErasmusMC.
Wat wist hun toenmalige baas @ministerVWS hiervan?
Deze presentatie van 17/12/2020 roept vragen op?
Niets over de zorgwekkende furin cleavage site en de zorgen geuit door wetenschappers in de call met Fauci op 1/02/2020 tav van de mogelijkheid van een labongeval. Informatie onmiddelijk gedeeld?
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#Contrarianism isn't a fault. It isn't even a "nice-to-have".

It's an essential mental skill if you're going to get to the truth.

Most important truths have some kind of bullshit epistemic minefield around them. If you can't bulldoze through those, you are NGMI.
The epistemic minefield around #Lableak was "trust the experts", "trust the science".

This is a red flag because on such an important matter scientists should be able to lay out a convincing argument that an intelligent person can evaluate. There's no need for trust.
The epistemic minefield always looks like that scene out of the Wizard of Oz where the Wizard is trying to distract your attention from the man behind the curtain (i.e. himself).
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If you want to know the damage that a Nobel laureate who's gone full quack can do, look no further than this @WSJ op-ed by Luc Montagnier and and Jed Rubenfeld trotting out this nonsense about mandates. 1/
One wonders if @WSJopinion knew when it accepted this op-ed that Luc Montagnier is a thoroughly disgraced quack now. He'd gone full antivax, for instance, years before the pandemic. 2/…
Indeed, when Montagnier embraced The One Quackery To Rule Them All, homeopathy, a decade ago, I coined the term "Nobel disease," to describe Nobel laureates who became quacks, cranks, and pseudoscientists in their later years. 3/…
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Yes! #LabLeak proponents are a lot like creationists in that their entire argument is an appeal to incredulity. Because we haven't nailed down how #SARSCoV2 jumped to humans, they argue, the virus must have been "designed" in a lab by a creator or leaked from a lab.
The basic idea is that they can't believe #COVID19 could have emerged naturally or, having emerged naturally, jumped from animals to humans without the intervention of an intelligence. In the case of creationists, that intelligence is God. In #LabLeak, it's scientists.
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Quick #Omicron-getting some facts straight-rundown:

Pushed rumor: "Muuh @WEF mentions B.1.1529 already in July 2021"

Answer: Nope, Disinfo PsyOp by Glowies

No mention of "B.1.1529":
24. July:
After 26. Nov:

"WEF stealth editing" "Stealth Editing" by WEF can be interpreted as &qu
"But muuuh Bobby muuuh, even @WHO dates B.1.1529 back to November 2020 (!!! muuuh)."

Nope, screenshot showing "B.1.1529 -> November 2020" is a PS-fakery by Glowies to let you look like an idiot.…

RBD mutations are not possible for the given timeline.
I also checked GISAID: no entries with the naming convention "B.1.1529" can be found there before Nov 2021. BUT: you can find the naming convention "1.1529" in the filename of South American March 2021 Uploads, for whatever reason.
Definitive "B.1.1529" genomes pop up in Nov2021.
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I thought: That’s a hell of conspiracy theory that, if true, would involve a lot of people covering up a lot of very improbable events. Guess what? After a year and a half it’s STILL a hell of conspiracy theory that, if true, would involve a lot of people covering up a lot. 1/
As I was putting together a talk about antivax conspiracy theories, I perused my blogs. You know what? People were claiming the then-novel coronavirus was an escaped bioweapon as early as January 2020—probably earlier. 2/
That’s because, in every outbreak or pandemic of a new disease, there *always* arise conspiracy theories that the disease was human-made and either leaked from a lab or was intentionally introduced. Such conspiracy theories exist for H1N1, HIV, Ebola, etc. 3/
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Per chi volesse approfondire i temi trattati nel servizio di #PresaDiretta di ieri sera, ho raccolto in questo thread le fonti e i documenti principali citati in trasmissione. 🧵1/
Cominciamo dalla missione dell'#OMS a #Wuhan, all'inizio di quest'anno. Qui trovate il rapporto finale che considera "estremamente improbabile" l'incidente di laboratorio. 2/…
Qui invece la famosa lettera scritta a @ScienceMagazine (primo autore @jbloom_lab) per chiedere di indagare tutti i possibili scenari. 3/…
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The origin of Covid-19 is no longer a scientific issue: it is a major issue on the functioning of scientific institutions.
(corrected version)
@NaomiOreskes @thackerpd @mattwridley
#COVID19 #lableak
The Covid-19 epidemic that has claimed millions of lives began in the city of Wuhan, a modern city in China with an institute (the WIV) where bat coronaviruses were studied and housed.
The most basic way to determine if the SARS-CoV-2 that claimed so many victims came from the WIV would have been to find out what work was being done there by obtaining funding requests and lab notebooks.`
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Sometimes the #OriginsOfCOVID gang (@Ayjchan etc) decide that the Chinese government’s reticence about sharing information from research centers is evidence for a #LabLeak. By that standard, is this evidence for spillover?… ImageImageImageImage
More. The Chinese government and regional governments have made it extremely hard to get any data on fur farms, exotic meat farms, and wild meat hunters. The *existence* of those products for sale in Wuhan is still being covered up within China. ImageImageImage
Enshi is far closer to Wuhan than Yunnan, where the closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 in China has been found. But it appears no one has sampled the viromes of Rhinolophus in Enshi. Practices there clearly warrant investigation. ImageImage
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I've been unable so far to confirm that there were any operable safety precautions at all, endorsed by WHO or CDC, that limited culture of anonymous bat coronaviruses to a specific biosafety standard.
This is not to attack anyone. I don't think we had a clue...thread.
In the CDC/NIH's fabled BMBL, biosafety in biomedical research laboratory standards, no mention is made of coronaviruses not already known to be human pathogens.
This is the de facto international standard.
When Wuhan handled, manipulated bat coronaviruses at lax standard...
They apparently broke no rules, formal or informal.
Because of this and other considerations, I have no anger toward Wuhan even tho I suspect SARS2 was something they propagated, their techs caught...
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26 out of the 27 @TheLancet scientists who dismissed #LabLeak have links to Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV)

The Lancet also published anti-repurpose drug-paper VS Hydroxychloroquine & had to retract it

Video is a rare view inside WIV (+CCP propaganda)
• Letter (March 2020) called claims that COVID-19 originated in a lab 'conspiracy'

• Signed by 27 scientists working in virology/medical science fields

•Letter effectively ended all debate about origins of the global coronavirus pandemic…
•The Lancet retracts Hydroxychloroquine Study:
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One last thread on the origins of #SARSCoV2 before the upcoming publication of the US intelligence report. First of all, there are two things that might be even more important than the origin itself: research ethics and scientific debate. 1/
Since the beginning, some scientists working in Chinese institutions haven't been fully transparent. The history of #RaTG13 and the issues with its sequencing data, the miners pneumonia, the missing database, the pangolin CoV data. Hiding info, playing with words. Bad science. 2/
The second thing that I didn't like was the suppression of an open dialogue between scientists, which lasted for several months. Now it's easier for scientists to freely talk about the different scenarios, but do you remember how difficult it was one year ago? 3/
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The techniques of facile reverse genetics- the engineering of coronaviruses to change some of their properties (gain of function) had been pioneered by Ralph Baric of UNC, who argued that his extreme containment efforts rendered the risk acceptable. NIH agreed in 2015, and...
the moratorium on GoF was lifted for Baric. But then NIH relaxed its rules further and funded US investigators to let China duplicate Baric's reverse genetics methods on a whole host of wild coronaviruses, viruses chosen from nature for their similarity to SARS virus...
and Chinese investigators did so avidly, but with one KEY difference.
They didn't do the massive "containment lab" effort pioneered by Baric, copying only the dangerous virus manipulation part.
Instead of the near-BSL4 standard of Baric at UNC, they did their...
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"No #lableak, but intentional bio-weaponization of spike proteins [by US players] to inject into people to addict them to #CV vaccines. Nothing to do with a released virus & every investigation to verify a lableak a red herring." Well researched long read.… ImageImageImageImage
Essence of this interview (transcript link above) with a US 'patent law' expert by a #German body trying to unravel origin of #SARSCoV2, is that virus isn't either natural or military, but a monetized virus patented before first #SARS & re-patented (+ vaccine) at intervals since. ImageImageImage
Full interview with US Patent expert here. Well worth watching to see how #BigPharma companies have been waiting, planning & patenting for a big vaccine moment for years.

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If #LabLeak #OriginsOfCovid types were smart, they’d take this as a win.…
This is just objectively true. I know the #LabLeakTheorytypes really want the facts to show something else, but right now they’re arguing about what’s possible, not what we know.
And facts don’t care about your feelings. Lab leak loons have succeeded in creating the debate they wanted, but not in producing the substance to keep it going. There’s no data and no plausible hypothesis.
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Well this is definitely a sign that #LabLeak discourse is healthy and responsible and not an obvious trolling operation with no goal but to interfere with science.
It’s just about ethics in science journalism, IYKWIMAITYD.
wHY d0nT seyeuhntests tAkE uZ zEriosLeeeeeeeee? we’re just gamifying trolling them and getting them to block us.
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What are biosafety levels. Quick review, as relates to coronaviruses. Thread...
There are four of them, BSL-1 (really, "no containment at all") thru -4, shown above, where you must chemical-shower your suit on the way out the door. The level you use is determined by the threat of the bug under study. BSL4 is for...
Pathogens of significant epidemic potential, usually quite lethal, for which there are few vaccine or treatment options. Think Ebola, Marburg, Machupo... there aren't that many of them. Yet universally lethal rabies doesn't need it. Why? There's a vaccine, antibodies...
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So... @LastWeekTonight @iamjohnoliver

@washingtonpost has been covering #LabLeak since Nov

@colbertlateshow @StephenAtHome @jonstewart talked about the novel coronavirus having the same name as the Wuhan institute (first name & last name)

@nytimes broke today

You up? 🧪🧪👩‍🔬
@LastWeekTonight @iamjohnoliver @washingtonpost @colbertlateshow @StephenAtHome @jonstewart @nytimes I have just been informed that the proper way of doing this is:

U up?
.@LastWeekTonight covered the growing risk of a natural pandemic this Feb.

It would be great if a future episode informs the public of the 21st century risk of a lab-based pandemic.

A pandemic in 1977 was lab-based. SARS classic leaked 6 times from labs.
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1. Tracking Live Bats Story Impact #DRASTIC
1,431,746 views in 6 days:
Footage proves bats were kept in Wuhan lab

Followed up by Newsweek @Samantha__Lock…
and Fox news @TuckerCarlson…
2. Tracking Live Bats Story Impact #drastic

China accused of 'astounding cover up' as footage emerges of bats caged in Wuhan lab

745,046 views•Jun 14, 2021
3. Tracking Live Bats Story Impact #drastic

Wuhan bat video shows much of pandemic origin information was ‘Chinese disinformation’

317,167 views•Jun 15, 2021
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I continue to find it irresponsible to treat "field worker breathed in bat poop and then coughed" as a "lab leak" rather than simply zoonosis. I mean, it's exactly the same as if a miner in the same cave got sick, which is definitely not a lab escape.…
I say "irresponsible" because it actively confuses the #LabLeak discussion. At one end, the US State Department inquiry was premised on SARS-CoV-2 being a bioweapon engineered by the PLA at WIV to target the West. Claims circulate that it was intentionally released!
Other claims about a lab escape involve questions about how safety protocols were applied in a research center. Those international protocols are a product of extensive discussion among scientists and ethicists, but are relatively recent and may not be perfect yet.
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Yes but there’s more. I’m realizing that phony #LabLeak arguments have morphed into justifications to bully and intimidate prominent American scientists. The far right (but increasingly the mainstream GOP) are adopting antiscience as a major platform. I’m working to stop this
For instance, where is the condemnation of @DailyMailUK @DailyMail for their disgusting and unjustified hit piece on @PeterDaszak it’s nothing more than their capitulation to far right extremism and promotion of an antiscience agenda in order to sell newspapers
Or the condemnation of the attacks I’ve experienced from the “army of patriots” who say they will “hunt” me down? I’m looking at models like the Southern Poverty Law @splcenter but an organization to defend biomedical scientists vs far right (or even not so far right) attacks
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This Science letter has been cited by many, including in my conversations with @dandrezner and @JamesSurowiecki, as a reason to take the “lab leak” more seriously. That’s not what this signer intended:…
We don’t do science by petition, so these letters are only marginally important to begin with. People are publishing research exploring zoonotic origins and debunking the main arguments advanced for a #LabLeak. Nothing in peer reviewed research literature requires #LabLeakTheory.
Worth comparing the recent Science letter with the letter a year ago that supposedly cemented groupthink forever and blocked lab escape research. They basically make the same points: support Chinese researchers, do a full investigatjon, don’t spread conspiracy theories.
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“Last time the #G7 met there was no mention of China. But this time there is mention of China,” #Biden said He also said the “G-7 leaders agreed to call out human rights abuses, to coordinate a strategy to “deal with China & to take action against forced labor”.
#G7Summit (1)
#JoeBiden said there is “plenty of action on China” in the joint communique, I think you’re going to see straightforward dealing with China. “And again, we’re not looking, as I’ve told Xi Jinping myself, I’m not looking for conflict.
.@TV9Bharatvarsh #China #US #India #G7UK (2)
Biden also called on China to “act more responsibly in terms of international norms on human rights and transparency” and mentioned the need for access for international experts to help determine the origins of the coronavirus. #Covid #WuhanLab #China #COVID19 (3)
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