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Dr Arvind Virmani (Phd) Profile picture
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Mar 27, 2021 • 93 tweets • 72 min read • Read on X
#USA is a free democracy, #India is a "partly free" democracy
#FOE Japan is a free democracy, India is a partly free democracy: Compare the ratio of critical/unfavorable articles, to favorable articles, in the top 3 news sources in Japan & India respectively, to find which press is freer! #SciMe 1st data, 2nd Analysis, 3rd Policy/views!🧐🤔
3/demo #Majoritarianism & freedom: Compare treatment of minorities in USA(non-christian), Japan(Korean etc) & India (Muslims): In particular plot over 70yrs th % of minority pop on same graph & compare decadal changes[summarizes it's discrimination(in cntry) & opportunities(ROW)]
4/demo World doesn't understand (& makes no effort to) the diff btwn India & rest of Asia: India is a individualist,fractious democracy in which it's social/intellectual honor to criticize Govt. In contrast, societies like Japan/Korea/China require every1 accept Social consensus!
5/demo Rest of Asia falls in btwn these extremes. World hears crescendo of criticism from elites(defeated by ideological opponent after 65 yrs) & assumes it accurately reflects decline in freedom. It Doesn't! It reflects #temp #excesses of pol outsider who has got in after 50yrs
6/demo India is strengthened by domestic criticism in Parlmt & media. India is weakened when intellectuals criticize GOI #abroad without putting facts in historical perspective, ignoring constitutional facts, exaggerating -ves, and over-generalizing from a few #horrific #events
7/demo In both #USA & #India, "law and order" is a State subject where only States can, charge, prosecute, jail a person. In USA, federal Govt can do so for "federal crimes", in India the Union Govt cannot do so without approval of State Govt.(till recent exception for Terrorism)
8/demo further to 4/demo No other Asian democracy comes close to, "India 's raucous & unbridled democracy"!
9/demo #German #Media is free, #Indian media is unfree? 🧐🤔
10/demo It's easy to give Human Rights Lectures, if (1) Your economic interests, security or safety will not be affected. (2) To those who won't /can't strike back at you or yours. Difficult if the tyrants are on your door-step, or inside your own country!
11/demo 2 democracies #USA and #India: In USA 100s of yrs after civil war there r still millions of people who think slavery was a good thing🧵& in #India 70 yrs after independence/reservation, there are millions who act as if casteism is good! Both grps claim to be religious😭
12/demo Q: Does this convert USA from a free, to a "partly free" democracy like India? Ans: Depends on the overall data, viewed in historical context! We should not exaggerate and over-generalize from media reports as #LIMPs & #ILIE have done for India.
13/demo In large countries like USA & India, there are many States (independent constitutional units). Don't exaggerate or over-generalize to whole country, to serve ideological or political goals: is just one state (so far) https://t.co/N9dK2VxdmE
14/demo Fundamental difference between closed and open countries👇🏼=> .Good practical test of openness: Measure the ratio of negative to positive information available in govt reports and press/media!
15/demo #GLIMP #GLIE Don't exaggerate reports and don't over generalize from media reports. Do put any analysis in historical perspective, https://t.co/Pe5LxDpDaK
16/demo #Australia is a free democracy, India has been downgraded to "partly free", partly because of exaggeration & over generalization of such 👇🏼types of random local incidents, by Indian media & their foreign soul mates!
17/demo It's one State in #USA (the most developed country in the world), the land of the free(in the 21st century ). We shouldn't "exaggerate" or "over-generalize" by saying that USA has become Hinduphobic since 1993. 🧐🤔
18/demo No #Majoritarianism in #USA ("It's the politics, stupid" look at the views of the "white, christian" ruling class in Texas and other southern States)
19/demo Are #US #racism and #Indian #casteism equivalent? Former is visible, the latter is a merely a name, easily changeable in the anonymity of urban life, but not in villages (and difficult to give up benefits of reservation)
20/demo Continuation of Discrimination in 21st century is about maintaining privilege or asserting power ; onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.11…
21/demo #SciMe: Did something similar/analogous to #USA happen in #India between 2016 & 2019(substitute minorities for Asians)? We can only compare scientifically, if we can get some data on India and analyze it carefully, objectively! Image
22/demo #Democracy Free & partly free? In #US police can kill an unarmed black man for complaining that he can't breathe and in #India police can kill unarmed mafiosi (dons) for escaping from jail!
23/demo This (🧵) is not unique to ethnic Chinese. A Sikh professor friend, on a summer teaching invite, a few yrs ago, got personally questioned & abused by a white women at LA airport & week later by another white(American-Sikh)women at an American-Sikh Gurudwara(BioN)
24/demo Free democracy(USA) vs Partly free democracy(India) ; Which has a greater % of #Experts on #Everything (#EOEs)
25/demo It's easy to #exaggerate & #over-#generalize👇🏼to say #USA has bcm #majoritarian & #racist since 2017. It wld b analogous to Liberal intellectual elite's projection(2017-18) of India as anti-muslim,majoritarian, when muslim soldier's father was murdered(for cow slaughter)
26/demo #Canada is "free democracy" (Proof: anti-india secessionists hv complete freedom of speech), #India is "partly free" (Proof: A private university suggested to a prof that by spending too much time on anti govt newspaper articles,instead of research, he was harming univ)
27/demo #USA is a "free" #democracy, so It's Private Cos have Freedom to censor actions of foreign Cos/Cntrys, #India is "partly free" democracy, so its Govt doesn't have the right to censor social media cos & foreign financial/digital cos (Hint: Neo-colonial hypocrisy)
28/demo USA is a free democracy, so it gives us the data(👇🏼), India is "partly free" so managing editors of English newspapers/TV decide what the facts are wrt hate crime "incidents"
29/demo USA is a free democracy, because its President passes laws/rules by executive order(& doesn't get Congress approval), India is "Partly free democracy" because the PM passes laws through ordinances, & gets them duly approved by parliament thereafter! 🧐🤔
30/demo In both #USA and in #India, I believe that pendulum had swung too much to the extremes, but will stabilize close to the center, in due course! Labels like #free & #partly #free democracy represent ignorance of diverse impulses rather than deep knowledge!🧐🤔
31/demo The Indian Philosophy (1 learnt as a youth), has many ideas much more consistent with 21st C scientific knowledge, than other theology. We can junk colonial indoctrination👇🏼, and reject our own worst cultural ideas/values, while adopting & propagating the best it offers.
32/demo Free #USA vs "Partly free" #India : #Crony #Capitalism vs #Crony #Socialism or just plain #Corruption (in both cases)
33/demo #UK is a free democracy, #India is partly free (Warning: Don't exaggerate & Over-generalize from media headlines & reports👇🏼, w/o getting data & putting it in historical context )
33/demo #USA is a #free #democracy, unlike #partly #free #India, where only terrorists carrying guns & bombs can be shot (note that unarmed escaped convicts can be shot in either country)
34/demo In free democracy 👇🏼, in partly free democracy they use tear gas or use rubber bullets to stop minors (<18yrs) who directly attack police and police vehicles with stones.
35/demo #PCP: "This👇🏼is acceptable in a "free democracy" if its President's heart is in right place. It's unacceptable majoritarianism, if such bias against minority is not condemned every time by the Indian PM, richly deserving India's downgrade to "partly free" democracy"
36/demo Some Americans think that some of their fellow citizens are not "really American"(👇🏼🧵), some Indians think, some of their fellow citizens are not, "real Indians". It would be useful to get the % of people in free #USA & partly free #India who have these wrong👎🏼 notions?
37/demo 👍🏼Some "free democracies" [USA, Canada, Netherlands, UK] have finally broken their self tied chains of hypocrisy. 👏👏
38/demo And an alliance of #Free, #Hypocrisies (sorry democracies), the "No Eyes" alliance?
39/demo It's always been so much easier for Human Rights Crusaders in rich democracies to criticize & punish poor democracies for their transgressions, than to criticize authoritarian regimes which can & will hit back. This👇🏼 debate will expose the #hypocrisy
40/demo All free democracies signed the #international #convention on #genocide (1948), but only one country(now partly free), has ever intervened militarily to stop a genocide in progress! Is genocide, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder?🥲😭😱
41/demo Hypocrisy of #HumanRightsOrgs, #Environmentalists and #ReligiousOrgs in #Free #Democracies is finally being exposed! 👏👏👏
42/demo richardhanania.substack.com/p/freedom-hous…
43/demo #USA is a free democracy, #India is "partly free" (in both countries, primary and secondary schooling are State subjects).
44/demo Germany Federal Republic is a "free" democracy, India is "partly free" democracy . Quite rightly, nobody questions the German Chancellor about what happens on one street, of one State, of the republic, nor do they hold her personally responsible for 👇🏼
45/demo #USA is a free democracy, #India is "partly free" (compare with what Indian public believed after 2014 & 2019 elections)
46/demo USA is a free democracy, India is partly free, but both 👇🏼and Swami Ramdev are free to confidently assert that their beliefs are (scientific) facts. 😎
47/demo #USA is a #free democracy so who cares, #India is "partly free" democracy, so any such statement by an MP, MLA, party member, a Sena leader, would be sufficient grounds for accusing the PM of murder and/or naming & shaming India & Indians in the international media!
48/demo Canada is free democracy, India is partly free, such horrendous criminal acts 👇🏼occur in both countries, but in one country they are used by foreigners to shame the entire country and its citizens. bbc.com/news/world-us-…
50/demo USA is a free democracy, so unlike "partly free" India, no foreign journalist will name & shame entire USA, nor will US journalists write negative articles in Indian Newspapers (/TV) nor foreign academics/think tankers criticize/shame US voters on their choices!
51/demo #Democracy is the worst form of Govt, except for #Dictatorship, #Oligarchy, #Stratocracy, #Theocracy or #Monarchy!
52/demo When 100 scholars warn about fate of democracy in #USA it is celebrated as a #free democracy, when 100 intellectuals warn about fate of democracy in India it's taken as proof that #India has become "#partly #free" democracy (down graded from free)😎
53/demo USA is #Free democracy:, so the growth of #Evangelicals, the radical, christian fundamentalists of US, is good for the world, India is "#partly #free" so growth of #Hindutva is a pox on India & the world? 😎
64/demo Human Rights crusader: "So we must redefine casteism as racism"
65/demo Rep of Korea is #free👇🏼, India is "partly free", bcs GOI signed #Assam #accord with insurgents(1985) & took > 30 yrs to identify illegal immigrants as per accord. But no 1 has been removed from Assam (despite legal challenges to accord being dismissed by SC). Rule of law?
66/demo Violence, hatred, death threats this must be "partly free" Indian democracy, no?
67/demo Those who question #Indian history written by the Colonialists and their collaborators are dismissed as unscientific & naive, because they haven't been certified by the same neo-colonial establishment
68/demo In USA this statement by a "Christian fundamentalist supporting" ex VP, "proves" it's a free democracy, in India such a statement by anyone "claiming" to be part of the Parivar would have "proved" its no longer free.
69/demo #USA is a #free cntry, it's govt ordered a vaccine which wasn't expected for 2-5 yrs (given history of vaccines).#India is "partly free" because it waited(too long?) to order 1-2 of 10 vaccines which now exist! We miss #Goldilocks 😇
70/demo US is a free democracy empowered by guns. We can digitally empower Indian citizens to build an #Indian #democracy in which citizens are free and responsible ( egrowfoundation.org/research/india…)
71/demo #India is a #free #country (sorry "#partly #free" #democracy), with a #Criminal #Justice #system, in desperate need of #reform
72/demo #USA is a #free democracy #India is, "Partly free."
73/demo #USA is a "#free democracy", and its criminal justice system has a far higher conviction rate than #India. But is that enough to reclassify India from free to "partly free?"
74/demo Police brutality happens even in well governed free democracies 👇🏼, 🙏🏼don't #exaggerate and #over-generalize when you see it in free/partly-free democracies with decrepit #criminal #justice #systems, in which systemic #reform is overdue!
75/demo A large plural democracy doesn't move on linear path. Essence of democracy is competition btwn different ideas/opinions expressed thru political process. A stable democracy shows "mean reversion" after pendulum of opinion swings to edges! theatlantic.com/international/…
76/demo #Majoritarian?
77/demo Discrimination makes #USA a "free democracy", and #India a " partly free" democracy? It depends on the information, understanding, knowledge & biases of the media on which rating organizations depend! Image
78/demo #Discrimination has many faces, but too many choose to see what supports their ideological & political views:
79/demo If this was India it would be named and shamed in entire world by GLIE as #majoritarian secularism.org.uk/opinion/2021/0…
80/demo All free, open democracies are threatened by a media which #exaggerates and #over #generalizes to attract audiences and provide news as entertainment. But Global media is particularly biased against open democracies which they know the least about!
81/demo Free, open #democracies benefit from balanced, specific criticism which encourages reform & points the paths to rectification, not bitter, angry, divisive criticism which increases divides, creates bigger chasms and promotes enemy narrative(It may be #FOE but it's 🐂💩)
82/demo (apropos 80/demo ): "Journalism is not the truth, .... its entertainment"
83/demo #USA is a free democracy, so its Big Tech, SM and E commerce companies are free to violate the law in "partly free" democracies, some thing they wouldn't dare to do in totalitarian countries!
84/demo USA is a free democracy (🧵), India is "partly free democracy" in which the election commission is an independent constitutional body, which has complete authority over every government official, where an election is being held,so as to ensure a free and fair election!
85/demo Advantage of being a free democracy. Nobody ridicules you or tries to name and shame your citizens in the foreign press as they do for the "partly free" democracies (they just make subtle jokes which 99% of world won't understand) !
86/demo #USA is a #free #democracy, so it's media is not only #guardian of #FOE in USA 👇🏼, but is also the guardian of #FOE in "partly free" #India! 👏👏👏
87/demo Are #secret #meetings to organize public letters, covered by #FOE laws/rules/rights in all free democracies? 🤑
88/demo 🙏🏼Now we understand why #USA is a free democracy (#FOE for criminals) and #India is "partly free"(Sedition laws). [Hint: Indian's have a choice; Act as neo-colonial collaborators in criticizing #GOI or reform all laws relating to criminal justice system]
89/demo Never seen in my lifetime, any pressure on #Singapore from the #HHRCs (#Hypocritical #Human #Rights #Crusaders)🤑🤑🤑
90/demo #USA is a #free democracy, the family of Senate Majority leader, working for the defence public enterprises of totalitarian states show-cases the #FOE citizens enjoy (🤑🤑🤑).
91/demo #USA #FOE vs #HateSpeech vs incitement to #murder! #HHRCs of the world unite you have nothing to lose but your hypocrisy!
92/demo No #Immaculate conception for #Western #Democracy: Not only is #History written by the #victors but also the philosophy, sociology, & narrative that runs institutions & drives political discourse! this is 20th century not 7th! Humanity is a continuum, not black & white!
93/demo #USA is a free country, #India is partly free, so GOI must #enforce #universal #vaccination by law
94/demo #USA always was and will be, a free country (for WASPs )
95/demo #Canada is a #free country as media can deny genocide without proof, #India is "#partly #free" because media can convict someone of genocide, despite a judicial process which concluded that there was no proof of criminal complicity in murder!
96/demo #FOE (= Freedom of Expression), #HHRCs (= Hypocritical Human Rights Crusaders)
96/demo #FOE #UK is a #free #democracy; every one is free to support any terrorist country, terrorist group or individual terrorist anywhere in the world (as long as they don't terrorize UK).
98/demo America is a free democracy, so no one blames the President for such 👇🏼lunacy, India is "partly free" democracy, so that all such crap is blamed on the PM!
99/demo USA is classified as a free democracy, bcs Sect of State who aided & abetted #Pakistan #Army #Genocide in East Pakistan is Awarded, India is classified as "partly free," bcs an independent #SIT, set up by Supreme court at request of Union Govt, clears State CM of charges!
100/demo India is a free, open democracy, "NOT partly free". That's why it's so easy for Indian intellectuals (#LIMPs, #ILIE) to make free world believe it is majoritarian, anti-muslim (it's >% anti-hindu), & dictatorial! Temp shocks don't make trend(pendulum🧐🤔) #Pew #Survey🧵
101/demo #Indians of #all #religions are proud of their culture (unlike deracineted, westernized, post-colonial Indian intellectuals who have collaborated with Marxists-Leninist-Stalinist-Maoists for 75 yrs: 🧵
192/demo #Understand #Indian opinion thru objective public opinion surveys (Don't exaggerate and over-generalize from selective experiences and reports) 🧵
193/demo #USA is a #free democracy because editors of World renowned journals censor themselves(🧵👇🏼), #India is only "partly free" democracy, because directors of a private college advise a professor to censor himself(he refuses & resigns)!🧐🤔

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